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kcmaxwell 03-20-2010 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 6619607)
He lost me at "...supplant Jamaal Charles."
this.
Thats why we brought in TJ? To push out Charles? Get a grip!!

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6619735)
Give Cassel a franchise caliber LT and some WRs to throw to and he can have the transformation that Trent Green had from his first season to his second season in KC
ROFL, dude Cassel doesn't have one tenth of Trent's accuracy, arm, and leadership capability. I was on the Trent Green bandwagon when KC got him, and was still on when he had the bad season during his 1st year as the starter with the Chiefs. Cassel has better mobility, but that is it.

RustShack 03-20-2010 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88 (Post 6619735)
Give Cassel a franchise caliber LT and some WRs to throw to and he can have the transformation that Trent Green had from his first season to his second season in KC
Shut the **** up. Cassel would be one of the most sacked QB's in the league even if he had the OL of the Vermiel era. Cassel is nothing like Green. How about give him Andre Johnson and watch him turn into David Carr? Or give him Randy Moss and watch him me Tuasippowhateverthe****?

I would rather have a QB who can make the team look better, not a QB who NEEDS a great team to look OK.

-King- 03-20-2010 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6620046)
ROFL, dude Cassel doesn't have one tenth of Trent's accuracy, arm, and leadership capability. I was on the Trent Green bandwagon when KC got him, and was still on when he had the bad season during his 1st year as the starter with the Chiefs. Cassel has better mobility, but that is it.
While I agree with most of your post, trent had a weak arm. Even weaker than cassels.
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-King- 03-20-2010 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6620051)
Shut the **** up. Cassel would be one of the most sacked QB's in the league even if he had the OL of the Vermiel era. Cassel is nothing like Green. How about give him Andre Johnson and watch him turn into David Carr? Or give him Randy Moss and watch him me Tuasippowhateverthe****?

I would rather have a QB who can make the team look better, not a QB who NEEDS a great team to look OK.
This.
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milkman 03-20-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6620285)
While I agree with most of your post, trent had a weak arm. Even weaker than cassels.
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Green didn't have a strong arm, but no, it wasn't weaker than Cassel's.

Tribal Warfare 03-20-2010 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6620285)
While I agree with most of your post, trent had a weak arm. Even weaker than cassels.
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No, Trent had a very solid arm. He could hit an out route to a WR without the ball dying like a duck.

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Chiefs=Champions 03-20-2010 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by badmajama (Post 6618001)
pppppppppppfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttttttttttt
pro football talk?

BIG K 03-21-2010 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6620344)
No, Trent had a very solid arm. He could hit an out route to a WR without the ball dying like a duck.

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Holy shit! Thank you for that! Forgot how cool that time was offensively! Defensively though.......:Lin:

BigMeatballDave 03-21-2010 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6617957)
Cassel had better WR's.
true. green had priest and tony.
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BIG K 03-21-2010 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 6620344)
No, Trent had a very solid arm. He could hit an out route to a WR without the ball dying like a duck.

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In contrast to your statement, I would love to see a video of Cassels pass attempts over 20 yards last year as a Chief. All the good stuff, completions, interceptions, dropped passes, over throws and underthrows. One thing I noticed watching that video, was that Green stepped into the pocket alot to avoid the rush......

Hootie 03-21-2010 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6617957)
Cassel had better WR's.
that's a joke...

he had bowe and chambers together for three games last year...

so if you want to say bowe or chambers was better than derrick alexander then go ahead, nice opinion, maybe someday...

aturnis 03-21-2010 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6620285)
While I agree with most of your post, trent had a weak arm. Even weaker than cassels.
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UNtrue. Green's arm wasn't amazing, but Cassel's arm is embarrassing.

aturnis 03-21-2010 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 6620520)
that's a joke...

he had bowe and chambers together for three games last year...

so if you want to say bowe or chambers was better than derrick alexander then go ahead, nice opinion, maybe someday...
Yeah, and don't act like Kennison wasn't better than Chambers. No way in hell Cassel had better receivers, these are the worst receivers in KC for a LONG time. Bowe is good, but one good receiver won't do.

aturnis 03-21-2010 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6617999)
Green was also a more accurate QB. It's fair to say Cassel's ceiling is 21-25 td's and he'll never be a great down the field passer.
This.


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