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T-post Tom 04-24-2010 07:47 AM

Great Scott, we have a winner

A year ago, I didn't get what Kansas City GM Scott Pioli was doing in the draft. He took Ty Jackson with the third overall pick, and it made no sense to me. Then Jackson went out and did -- uh, nothing, and it made less sense. So Pioli returns this year, gets off to a flying start and, suddenly, is the early leader in comeback of the year voting. Getting Eric Berry with the fifth pick was smart, but it wasn't all that difficult to make. Most boards had Berry in the top six, and the Chiefs' best safety, Bernard Pollard, was no longer a Chief. They let him go prior to last season, so there was a need at the position. OK, fine. But Pioli made his mark in the second round, scoring two bull's-eyes with his choices.

First was Dexter McCluster, a game-breaking running back/wide receiver/return specialist who is perfect for a team that needs playmakers. So McCluster is small -- pick your spots. He's Darren Sproles, and you'll love him, Chiefs' fans. Then Pioli has the 50th overall choice and finds Javier Arenas, the best blitzing defensive back in the draft and a marvelous return specialist. All Arenas did was come within 11 yards of setting a national career punt return record, and if the Chiefs' defense can stop anyone, that will come in handy. "He can start from Day 1 I believe," said NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock. "I think that's a great pick. I love what Kansas City has done. "

RJ 04-24-2010 07:48 AM

I am skeptical but I sure hope those opinions turn out to be right.

T-post Tom 04-24-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 6708655)
Clausen was someone you were considering with #5 then why would you pass on him in round 2?

They never considered him at # 5. That was all BS. I ran into Weiss this morning at Starbucks and he told me so.

chief52 04-24-2010 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 6708655)
If you thought that Clausen was someone you were considering with #5 then why would you pass on him in round 2?

Who says the Chiefs were considering Clausen at #5? Who says that Charlie Weis wanted Clausen? Funny how people report things like they are fact...

TEX 04-24-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 6708675)
Great Scott, we have a winner

A year ago, I didn't get what Kansas City GM Scott Pioli was doing in the draft. He took Ty Jackson with the third overall pick, and it made no sense to me. Then Jackson went out and did -- uh, nothing, and it made less sense. So Pioli returns this year, gets off to a flying start and, suddenly, is the early leader in comeback of the year voting. Getting Eric Berry with the fifth pick was smart, but it wasn't all that difficult to make. Most boards had Berry in the top six, and the Chiefs' best safety, Bernard Pollard, was no longer a Chief. They let him go prior to last season, so there was a need at the position. OK, fine. But Pioli made his mark in the second round, scoring two bull's-eyes with his choices.

First was Dexter McCluster, a game-breaking running back/wide receiver/return specialist who is perfect for a team that needs playmakers. So McCluster is small -- pick your spots. He's Darren Sproles, and you'll love him, Chiefs' fans. Then Pioli has the 50th overall choice and finds Javier Arenas, the best blitzing defensive back in the draft and a marvelous return specialist. All Arenas did was come within 11 yards of setting a national career punt return record, and if the Chiefs' defense can stop anyone, that will come in handy. "He can start from Day 1 I believe," said NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock. "I think that's a great pick. I love what Kansas City has done. "

All he has to do is read his own take of " and if the Chiefs' defense can stop anyone, that will come in handy." to find the error with his analysis. Made way more sense to use BOTH # 2's to make sure the Chiefs could stop someone before they used the picks on role players. Just plain dumb. :shake:

whoman69 04-24-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chief52 (Post 6708699)
Who says the Chiefs were considering Clausen at #5? Who says that Charlie Weis wanted Clausen? Funny how people report things like they are fact...

It wasn't me that reported it. Both NFL and ESPN reported the same.

crazychiefsfan 04-24-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 6709011)
It wasn't me that reported it. Both NFL and ESPN reported the same.

Yea they also reported the big ben trade which was total BS. What does this teach us kids????? thats right don't believe everything you hear

el borracho 04-24-2010 10:43 AM

I thought the second round was smurfy.

Ebolapox 04-24-2010 10:44 AM

just one question: what the **** is KS? kansas shitty?

Micjones 04-24-2010 10:49 AM

I don't question whether or not Arenas and McCluster can play.
I'm concerned that they drafted roleplayers with #2's that should've gone towards impact defensive STARTERS.

McCluster could be one hell of a Chief for all we know...
But he won't help us stop the run. And that's more important, I think, than what he can potentially do as a utility offensive player.

Mr. Laz 04-24-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom (Post 6708675)
First was Dexter McCluster, a game-breaking running back/wide receiver/return specialist who is perfect for a team that needs playmakers. So McCluster is small -- pick your spots. He's Darren Sproles, and you'll love him, Chiefs' fans. Then Pioli has the 50th overall choice and finds Javier Arenas, the best blitzing defensive back in the draft and a marvelous return specialist. All Arenas did was come within 11 yards of setting a national career punt return record, and if the Chiefs' defense can stop anyone, that will come in handy. "He can start from Day 1 I believe," said NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock. "I think that's a great pick. I love what Kansas City has done. "

that's all great if we had selected these guys IN THE 5Th ROUND

get a quality nose tackle and ILB in round 2 then we can afford to select the toys in round 5.

deepest ****ing draft in history and we select "gadgets" in round 2. :banghead:

BigChiefFan 04-24-2010 10:54 AM

Pioli just built the Vermeil Chiefs. All offense, no sign of life on defense. Thanks for adding one starter on defense. I'm sure our defense will magically learn to stop the run with Ron Edwards manning the nose. Mays and Belcher should put the fear of God into opposing defenses. ONE defensive starter out of this draft. ONE.

GoHuge 04-24-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 6708655)
I have to state the 2nd round was wasted on luxery picks. When you have as many holes as we do on both sides of the ball then using 2nd round picks on a 3rd down back/slot receiver and a guy who will probably never be more than a nickle back then you are essentially wasting those picks. We still have holes on the dline, linebacking corps and still have a mediocre receiving corps. I love the Berry pick. Asamoah looks like the angry player that we need. And I think Moeaki will be solid.

I also have to comment on passing Clausen. I think if you take him in the first then it signals to Cassel that he is a lame duck and you get nothing from him this year. Taking him in the 2nd does not say the same thing. I don't see that Cassel did anything last year to say he is a long term answer at QB. Quite the opposite in fact. If its Scott Pioli not wanting to admit that he may have made a mistake in taking Cassel then he is putting his own ego ahead of the franchise. If you thought that Clausen was someone you were considering with #5 then why would you pass on him in round 2?

What's a luxery pick?

All of this continued Clausen talk is beyond stupid. If the Chiefs or Charlie Weis thought he was worth a **** as an NFL QB they would have drafted him. He was finally drafted at #48 and that was by a team without a QB. We already have a Clausenesque guy in Croyle. Given were both got drafted, in the eyes of NFL people they're not too much different. If Cassel bombs this year we will be picking high again next year and can get an actual franchise QB prospect. Where Clausen went nobody in the NFL thinks he has that potential. They only do this for a living. More often than not they are right. That's why they are paid professionals and we are posting about the draft on message boards.

Also it has been widely reported the Chiefs had no interest in him at #5. That was backed up when they passed again at #36. Can we finally put that dumbass rumor to rest now? It's pretty obvious the only people that feel he was 1st round worthy were dumbasses on message boards and Mel Kiper. Just further evidence of what a moron Kiper is and shows that he's no insider. Either that or NFL teams just feed him shit to continue to make him look like a dumb****. Probably a combo of both. I think they should focus on Kiper's horrible predictions as much as they do a falling draft pick. I can't believe they continued to show "Kiper's best available" with Clausen at the top for a rounds worth selections. Makes ESPN look pretty dumb when they tout him as their Draft expert.

FD 04-24-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6709613)
get a quality nose tackle and ILB in round 2 then we can afford to select the toys in round 5.

What quality nose tackle did you want them to pick there? Cody is worthless and there wasn't much else there unless you wanted a reach for the ages.

Bugeater 04-24-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Forward Dante (Post 6710263)
What quality nose tackle did you want them to pick there? Cody is worthless and there wasn't much else there unless you wanted a reach for the ages.

Okay, once again, if it's SO DAMN HARD to get a NT, WHY THE HELL DID WE MAKE THE SWITCH TO THE 3-4?

I'm anxious to hear an answer from one of the Pioli ballwashers sometime.


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