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mlyonsd 06-13-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6817692)
At this point, I have no faith that he is anything more than equal to Carl, though he still has time to prove me wrong.

Fair enough. I was just checking to see if you had gone insane. Carry on.

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6817693)
I wouldn't agree with that, except for their first draft choice.

But that's all that's needed.

One selected DT. And the other took TJ and saddled us with Cassel.

milkman 06-13-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6817699)
But that's all that's needed.

One selected DT. And the other took TJ and saddled us with Cassel.

I think we have to see how things play out with Haley over time, and how this draft pans out before we can say definitively.

mlyonsd 06-13-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6817699)
But that's all that's needed.

One selected DT. And the other took TJ and saddled us with Cassel.

JMO but you're using hindsight proof for Carl and yet to be determined logic for Pioli.

The Bad Guy 06-13-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6817699)
But that's all that's needed.

One selected DT. And the other took TJ and saddled us with Cassel.

What DT was available in last year's draft?

If we are going to compare the 2, there has to be at least an equivalent.

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 6817705)
JMO but you're using hindsight proof for Carl and yet to be determined logic for Pioli.

I think we can say, with much confidence, that TJ, at his position, will never be a DT-level player.

But we'll see.

The Pioli era is too new. Berry could turn into a freaking stud, and this will work to change views pretty quickly.

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6817708)
What DT was available in last year's draft?

If we are going to compare the 2, there has to be at least an equivalent.

I concede that point, which is why I factored Cassel into the decision.

I think we had the potential to have an out****ingstanding '09 draft, but we didn't. And it's water under the bridge now.

My point is that, 17 months in, Carl's work was superior to Pioli's. Doesn't mean that the latter might not be MUCH better when everything is said and done.

Mr. Laz 06-13-2010 10:13 AM

Croyle and Moeacki ... both could be good if they stayed healthy

Mr. Arrowhead 06-13-2010 10:39 AM

Moeaki running with 1s today

Bob Fescoe bobfescoe

#chiefs mini camp over early today. Highlight of the day is Moeaki running w the 1's and making a nice catch in corner of end zone.

Mr. Laz 06-13-2010 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 6817764)
Moeaki running with 1s today

Bob Fescoe bobfescoe

#chiefs mini camp over early today. Highlight of the day is Moeaki running w the 1's and making a nice catch in corner of end zone.

*crossing fingers*

this could be great for us if Moeacki can stay healthy ... he has lots of potential as a blocker and receiver. HUGE help for the offense.

DaneMcCloud 06-13-2010 01:50 PM

This report isn't surprising. O'Connell struggled when active in 2009. We're barely six months removed from last season and not enough time has passed for him to have "turned it around". I'd bet he'll spend the 2010 season bouncing between active roster and the practice squad where hopefully, he'll be able to "figure it out".

I really like the Moeaki pick and I'm not surprised that he's doing well. His injuries weren't serious in college, just untimely. He may end up as the steal of the 2010 third round.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2010 04:47 PM

Is it April yet?! :D

ChiefaRoo 06-13-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6818090)
This report isn't surprising. O'Connell struggled when active in 2009. We're barely six months removed from last season and not enough time has passed for him to have "turned it around". I'd bet he'll spend the 2010 season bouncing between active roster and the practice squad where hopefully, he'll be able to "figure it out".

I really like the Moeaki pick and I'm not surprised that he's doing well. His injuries weren't serious in college, just untimely. He may end up as the steal of the 2010 third round.

Agreed, I liked Moeaki in College. He just needs experience and to see the field.

BossChief 06-13-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6817708)
What DT was available in last year's draft?

If we are going to compare the 2, there has to be at least an equivalent.

MY preference was Orakpo, while he may never be as good of a pass rusher as DT was, he will be much better against the run. He would have been a much better pick than TJ at 3.

JMO

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KEEP ****ING DOUBTING TONY MOEAKI!!!

DeezNutz 06-13-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 6818549)
KEEP ****ING DOUBTING TONY MOEAKI!!!

If you continue screaming, you might hurt Brokaki's ears, thus sidelining him until November.


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