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milkman 06-19-2010 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6831563)
I agree with you about Croyle, but it still makes me wonder how Damon Huard was able to win 5 games in those two years that Croyle was a "starter"

Confidence and experience.

Watching Croyle, he has the physical tools to succeed, but he plays tentatively, which I believe Herman ****ing Edwards and Dick Curl are in large part, responsible for.

Huard had nothing to lose.

He was a career backup with little talent, so he put it all out there when he was on the field and had the time in the pocket to make reads and throws.

Croyle showed what he is capable of in the preseason, but as soon as the regular season rolled around, he showed a total lack of confidence in his ability.

But again, it's all moot.

The first time a defender blows some air his way, he'll get something broken.

CoMoChief 06-19-2010 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 6831556)
arent they the same players?

Given the fact we upgraded the Oline this year, Croyle IMO shouldn't be running for his life like in past seasons. If he were to have any time whatsoever to throw the ball, my guess is that this team would be better overall w/ him behind center. W/ Weis as OC, Croyle IMO would have the right tools and people around him to be successful.

The only reason why Croyle ISN'T the starter is because he's made of glass and had some serious bad luck w/ injuries. Because of that, and Pioli, we are stuck w/ CASSHole at QB.

Quesadilla Joe 06-19-2010 09:14 AM

Herm on Cassel

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Second year in the system will help him a lot. I see him having a good season
https://twitter.com/HermEdwardsESPN/status/16546141229

CoMoChief 06-19-2010 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6831573)

:(:shake::doh!::cuss:

BigChiefFan 06-19-2010 09:42 AM

Good Lord, people. He's working his ass off to improve his game and the overall offense. WTF is not to like about that? Lighten up, folks, you'll live longer. I'm actually encouraged by the article, but I am a fan of the team. ;)

Bane 06-19-2010 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 6831514)
So once we surround Cassel with all Pros, people will feel better about him?

Brilliant....

Hasn't that been the general consensus anyway? Surround him with 8 pro bowlers and he'll be a good QB....ROFL:shake:

Bane 06-19-2010 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724 (Post 6831573)


Me on you.

STFU you goddamn Donktard!

chiefsngop 06-19-2010 09:50 AM

Speaking of the Donks.

I bet if King Carl was still around it probably would've been us taking Teebow in the 1st round.

The King would've finally broke down and went after his real QBOTF and WE would've been the dumb fucks taking Teebow in round 1.

Chief Roundup 06-19-2010 10:00 AM

Haley is as much to blame as anyone else changing the playbook 10 days before the season started.

Bane 06-19-2010 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 6831611)
Haley is as much to blame as anyone else changing the playbook 10 days before the season started.

I can agree with that somewhat.I thought a lot of his play calling was horrid but I figured most of it came from his lack of confidence in Cassel.One thing is for sure,as bad as it all went down last year we only have one way to go.......Hopefully:doh!:

Coogs 06-19-2010 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 6831563)
I agree with you about Croyle, but it still makes me wonder how Damon Huard was able to win 5 games in those two years that Croyle was a "starter"

The Chiefs "could" have legitimately won 5 of the 9 games Croyle started. Four of them in 2007, and the Ravens game last year. Here are the 2007 games he started that could have been won...

2007 season. Croyle starts 6 of last 7 games.

Game 1 is at Indianapolis. Bad news right? Late 3rd, Croyle leads us on 11 play 77 yd drive that ends with 19 yd TD pass to Bowe to tie the score at 10. Then, with about eleven minutes left in the game we get the ball back at own 25, still tied at 10. Croyle hits Gonzo for 7 and Bowe for 14 and we are first and 10 at 45 with nine minutes left. OC (Solari?) goes conservative again, and we punt the ball to Manning with seven minutes left. Manning runs out clock and Colts kick late FG to win 13-10.

Game 2 is Oakland at home. Late 3rd Croyle leads us on 9 play 63 yard drive that ends in TD and a 17-13 lead. Defense forces 3-and-Out. Next drive Croyle takes us 47 yards on 9 more plays to Oakland 15. Rayner misses short FG. Rested defense gives up 3 play 77 yard TD drive. Croyle follows up with 12 play 52 yard drive to Oakland 23. Went for it on 4th and 1 as opposed to FG to tie with 4:22 to go in game. Didn't make it on Smith run. Oakland runs out clock.

Game 3 did not play vs Sandy Eggo

Game 4 got hammered 41-7 at Dennver

Game 5 vs Tennessee lead 14-13 in 3rd. Croyle leads us on 14 play drive that lasts 7:20 seconds and ends in FG for 17-13 lead. Well rested defense gives up 3 play 60 yard TD drive... Ballgame.

Game 6 at Detroit. Down 19-0 early. Played bad. Huard replaces Croyle.

Game 7 at Jets. Ugly game. Down 10-3 middle of 4th quarter. Croyle leads us on 9 play 83 yard drive that ends with 26 yard TD pass to tie game at 10 with 3:07 to go. Get ball back with little over a minute to go, but it was inside our own 20. Game goes to OT. Jets win toss. 11 plays later Jets kick FG to win 13-10.



Now whoever is QB doesn't really matter to me. But I hope one of these two is good, because if not we are still several years more away from being a contender. And God knows, I am definately ready for the Cheifs to be at the top of the food chain instead of at the bottom.

Mr. Arrowhead 06-19-2010 10:15 AM

i will say this, Castle really does try his hardest

milkman 06-19-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 6831590)
Good Lord, people. He's working his ass off to improve his game and the overall offense. WTF is not to like about that? Lighten up, folks, you'll live longer. I'm actually encouraged by the article, but I am a fan of the team. ;)

No one dislikes the fact that he works hard.

That's great.
That's what you want form a player.

But none of it matters if you don't have the necessary talent and physical tools to go along with that hard work.

Cassel is a marginally talented hard worker, and no matter how hard he works, he's never going to be any more than marginally talented.

Bane 06-19-2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6831628)
No one dislikes the fact that he works hard.

That's great.
That's what you want form a player.

But none of it matters if you don't have the necessary talent and physical tools to go along with that hard work.

Cassel is a marginally talented hard worker, and no matter how hard he works, he's never going to be any more than marginally talented.

:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

'Hamas' Jenkins 06-19-2010 10:27 AM

He's marginally talented and exceptionally compensated.


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