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BryanBusby 08-02-2010 03:56 PM

What's probably going on is the Star is telling its more higher paid writers to take a hike for X amount of months to save money. The newspaper industry has been dying for a long time and the Star itself has been losing its ass financially well before this so-called recession.

DeezNutz 08-02-2010 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 6912632)
Well, you posted in a thread about him, so i would say you do a little at least.

**** you, Herm!!!

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6912654)
**** you, Herm!!!

LMAO

sedated 08-02-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6912626)
Not everything, just people that are piss-poor at their jobs, that happened to be involved with my favorite football team.

The only people that think Teicher and Babb do a good job are those that have never read a sports section outside of the Star.

Its the same with everything in KC sports media. "KK sucks, Nick Wright sucks, Babb sucks, Teicher sucks, Whitlock sucks," on and on and on. The only KC sports media person who got any love was Posnanski, and he left to write for SI.

If it was up to CP members, no one would cover the Chiefs, because no one would be worthy of it.


But I guess its the way of the internet - the tough guy hipster who has nothing but criticism for anything not accepted by other tough guy internet hipsters.

BigRock 08-02-2010 04:03 PM

If Jason did leave the Star, he already works for Fox Sports, so couldn't he easily do local pieces for Fox Sports KC?

WHITLOCK AND ATHAN, TOGETHER AT LAST

|Zach| 08-02-2010 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6912660)
Its the same with everything in KC sports media. "KK sucks, Nick Wright sucks, Babb sucks, Teicher sucks, Whitlock sucks," on and on and on. The only KC sports media person who got any love was Posnanski, and he left to write for SI.

If it was up to CP members, no one would cover the Chiefs, because no one would be worthy of it.


But I guess its the way of the internet - the tough guy hipster who has nothing but criticism for anything not accepted by other tough guy internet hipsters.

Yea, message board culture is hilarious. The guys who called into sports radio shows are as bad as it gets though.

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 6912660)
Its the same with everything in KC sports media. "KK sucks, Nick Wright sucks, Babb sucks, Teicher sucks, Whitlock sucks," on and on and on. The only KC sports media person who got any love was Posnanski, and he left to write for SI.

If it was up to CP members, no one would cover the Chiefs, because no one would be worthy of it.


But I guess its the way of the internet - the tough guy hipster who has nothing but criticism for anything not accepted by other tough guy internet hipsters.

Could that be because KC sports media DOES suck, other than JoPo?

It has nothing to do with the internet. Hell, I've met Teicher in person, and held a 5 minute conversation with him watching a camp practice at River Falls.

When he had to ask ME who a particular player (camp body) was, it told me everything I needed to know about the guy.

Read some work by other NFL beat writers, and listen to radio shows in different markets, and you'll see why people think KC media sucks.

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6912687)
Yea, message board culture is hilarious. The guys who called into sports radio shows are as bad as it gets though.

I'll ask you, Zach, since I don't expect to have this question taken seriously by Sedated:

Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?

If you don't read/listen much out of town, feel free to just respond with who you think does a good job.

DeezNutz 08-02-2010 04:28 PM

Print media is dying everywhere, so that's not exactly fair. On the radio, Petro really is pretty decent. Yeah, he's a True Fan when it comes to the Chiefs, but his baseball analysis is generally solid.

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 04:29 PM

You know who was a very, very good football writer for the Star?

Ivan Carter.

Reading Carter's work was a pleasure. Reading Liz Merrill, Teicher and Babb was/is like reading Highlights For Kids.

|Zach| 08-02-2010 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6912692)
I'll ask you, Zach, since I don't expect to have this question taken seriously by Sedated:

Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?

If you don't read/listen much out of town, feel free to just respond with who you think does a good job.

Here is my point more so...I will switch it up a bit.

My answer? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

Every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks...seriously...every hardcore sports fan thinks that [blank] associated with their organization is the absolute worst. I am not ripping on anyone I am just pointing out what I think is really obvious is sports and message board culture.

The skill or lack of skill real or perceived matters little. Familiarity breeds contempt.

|Zach| 08-02-2010 04:31 PM

In my opinion the absolute best sports writer I read regularly is Dave Matter at the Columbia Tribune who covers Mizzou football. I remember feeling like coverage in STL was a little week anytime I have taken in info over there.

Here is the tough thing with NFL writers. WTF are they gonna tell Chiefs Planet folks? If they report the facts then they are called bland and boring. If they go beyond the facts then they are trying to stir up drama. It is really a no win situation.

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6912701)
Print media is dying everywhere, so that's not exactly fair. On the radio, Petro really is pretty decent. Yeah, he's a True Fan when it comes to the Chiefs, but his baseball analysis is generally solid.

Print media is dying, but the same work is available on the internets. Makes it even easier to compare writers.

And really, Soren "Matt Cassel is a Top 8 QB" Petro?

ROFL

Part of being a good writer/radio host is being objective. Calling the good, good and calling the bad, bad.

JMO, but I don't think there's been true objectivity in KC sports media since Carter and JoPo.

OnTheWarpath15 08-02-2010 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6912703)
Here is my point more so...I will switch it up a bit.

My answer? It doesn't matter. It really doesn't.

Every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks...seriously...every hardcore sports fan thinks that [blank] associated with their organization is the absolute worst. I am not ripping on anyone I am just pointing out what I think is really obvious is sports and message board culture.

The skill or lack of skill real or perceived matters little. Familiarity breeds contempt.

Disagree with "every fan of every team thinks their beat guys are hacks."

You'd be hard pressed to find someone who considered Ivan Carter a "hack."

My two other teams, the Cardinals and Blues, also have tremendous writers following the teams, IMO.

I think you're reaching a bit, but I do appreciate your response.

ChiefsCountry 08-02-2010 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6912692)
Who in the KC radio or print media would you consider good at their jobs in comparison to their counterparts in other cities?

Whitlock is. He just pisses off the true fans too much.


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