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chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cool han Luke (Post 6962111)
Is it me? Or does any body else think Albert would play better with more weight? We drafted him becouse he was big and could play LT. I think his weight loss has significalty deminished his skills some how. Thought he had more potential with the bigger size than he has now. Just my thoughts. Now think he should just play guard and have to draft another LT next year. At least we would have a replacemnt for Brian Waters. Not sure how much longer Brian Waters is going to be around. He is getting up there in age.

In a Zone Blocking Scheme, his weight is just fine. If he adds weight, that's playing to the strengths of a totally different blocking scheme.

Bane 08-29-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962187)
In a Zone Blocking Scheme, his weight is just fine. If he adds weight, that's playing to the strengths of a totally different blocking scheme.

That's all fine and dandy but he's a big nasty sumbitch,let him fuggn eat and play like a big nasty sumbitch!
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Dave Lane 08-29-2010 09:29 AM

What we don't need is a bunch of fat asses at any position. Adding weight by adding muscle is what wouldn't be bad. But just being fat and out of shape won't help his game.

cabletech94 08-29-2010 09:59 AM

as someone else called him......

"eagle eye" says it like it is.



*sarcasm pretty thick here*

RedThat 08-29-2010 10:07 AM

One thing I've noticed about Albert ever since we drafted him, he always gets off to slow starts. But he's had to make a lot of adjustments the last two years.

What I do like about him is he plays better as the season goes on. He just seems like one of those guys that starts off slow but finishes strong. Not sold on him being a franchise LT, but I think he will be solid.

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58 (Post 6962198)
That's all fine and dandy but he's a big nasty sumbitch,let him fuggn eat and play like a big nasty sumbitch!
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He's also athletic as shit and plays really well in space. His upside is in his feet, not in his size. I don't have a problem w/him playing at a lower weight. And for a ZBS, where pass protection tends not to be phenomenal, I think he's doing just fine.

Let's take Wiegmann vs. Niswanger, for example. The reason Wiegmann's been so much more effective is that he's a pretty terrific space blocker. In a ZBS, I'd rather have a space blocker who's outmatched by big blockers than the other way around.

Mr. Laz 08-29-2010 10:44 AM

weird how they write this piece after Alberts worse preseason game.

QuikSsurfer 08-29-2010 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962185)
I don't really understand why people have such issues with our o-line. It's not like Cassel is getting hit a lot. It's not like he's getting a ton of pressure. It's not like we're struggling to move the ball on the ground.

Jamaal Charles proved that our run blocking wasn't bad--we just need a RB with the vision to see the hole and hit it. Cassel, I believe, will prove that a good QB should do the same thing. A QB can spot a blitz from a mile away and get rid of the ball so fast, they really don't need to pass protect. If Cassel had any hint of pocket awareness, we'd eliminate a huge chunk of our sacks and pressures.

Wat

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6962325)
weird how they write this piece after Alberts worse preseason game.

When you see what you want to see, yes.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/8...aking-down-the

This guy for Arrowhead Pride has been breaking down the o-line tape play by play. Albert has not been nearly as bad as some people want to make him out to be.

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by QuikSsurfer (Post 6962326)
Wat

In the beginning of last season, Cassel was getting sacked a ton because the interior line was getting pushed into him. Since then, Cassel's mostly had a working pocket and 3-5 seconds to get rid of the ball untouched. In a lot of cases, I've seen Cassel take a sack, run forward, or fumble the ball because he didn't have the awareness to step up in the pocket.

Our run blocking hasn't been that bad. It's nowhere near the 2003 Chiefs, but it's looked pretty good this preseason. Our pass protection has struggled, but again, a lot of that is on the QB. I can guarantee that Drew Brees or Tom Brady would have this same offensive line look like a totally different pass protecting unit.

Mr. Laz 08-29-2010 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962332)
When you see what you want to see, yes.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/8...aking-down-the

This guy for Arrowhead Pride has been breaking down the o-line tape play by play. Albert has not been nearly as bad as some people want to make him out to be.

where did i say he's been bad? link?

you can't because i didn't

i SAID ... "after his worse preseason game" ... Which is was.


now grab another glass of kool-aid and hush up

milkman 08-29-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 6962332)
When you see what you want to see, yes.
http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/8...aking-down-the

This guy for Arrowhead Pride has been breaking down the o-line tape play by play. Albert has not been nearly as bad as some people want to make him out to be.

I'd agree that Albert hasn't been nearly as bad as some want to make him out to be, but at the same time, he hasn't made the progress at this point that should have been expected if he had truly committed himself this offseason to improve.

philfree 08-29-2010 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6962338)
I'd agree that Albert hasn't been nearly as bad as some want to make him out to be, but at the same time, he hasn't made the progress at this point that should have been expected if he had truly committed himself this offseason to improve.

I agree with all but the bolded part. He came in at weight and passed the physical test and i've read no news of his commitment being questioned.
So what information are you forming this opinion on?


PhilFree:arrow:

chiefzilla1501 08-29-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 6962338)
I'd agree that Albert hasn't been nearly as bad as some want to make him out to be, but at the same time, he hasn't made the progress at this point that should have been expected if he had truly committed himself this offseason to improve.

I'm not saying he's an all-pro by any means. I'm just trying to figure out why people are saying he had such a bad game or that he hasn't improved or that he's having such a bad preseason that he shouldn't even be starting anymore. He needs to improve a lot. But these big mistakes people keep talking about, where are they? He hasn't been dominating the guys he's blocked, but he hasn't been getting beat or dominated by any stretch.

And the answer is that I think a lot of people see poor blocking or poor o-line play and just assume that the Left Tackle is responsible.

Jawshco 08-29-2010 11:28 AM

Terrible article. The commentary is total rehash from other articles, and those quotes are all old. Just awful! That's several lazy articles in a row from Tiecher. How is he still employed?


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