I wouldn't call Haley a "great" offensive coordinator. He was the OC in name only in 2007 and while the 2008 Cardinals had a potent offense, he had a HOF QB and WR on that squad (with Whisenhunt looking over his shoulder).

Haley certainly didn't look "great" last year and Norv in his time in the NFL has done a good job with far less talent.

It's hard to dispute Norv's success in Dallas as an OC and in San Diego as a head coach.

Has he won a Super Bowl as a head coach? No. But he certainly isn't near as bad as he's made out to be on Chiefsplanet.

It's amazing how important that one area in which they're ridiculously better than us is, huh?

And I agree with Dane. Norv gets labeled as a ****ing moron, but that's hardly accurate.

I think Haley has the great OC part in him......he just hasn't shown it in KC so far.

And if you're going to say that Haley had a HOF QB and WR on that squad.....then you also have to mention that Turner had Aikman and Smith on his team.

Simply the QB my friend.

B+ to A minus tops. Why, do you think he should be higher? Rivers is a top 10 QB sure, but not let's fellate the guy.

:spock:

I would give my left ****ing nut to have Rivers as our QB.

Uh, he's right behind Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers.

Rivers is the only reason that team is still competing. and for as long as he's there, the Chargers will be in the hunt.

We have better backs. We have better starting Wr's right now, but less depth. Better starting DB's, but less depth. Better pass rushing OLB, but that's it. We lose every where else. except for Punter.

The difference being that was Haley's ONLY experience as an OC. Norv had some pretty decent offenses with Trent Green and Philip Rivers, not to mention his stint in Miami.

I'm skeptical of one's qualifications based on one single season.

OK, that's fine, but you seem to mock the OP's designation of a B/B+......why? I acknowledge he's a good QB, but not left nut good. He's kind of a bitch, and he's not the carry-the-team type.

I would rather have Mathews and Sproles than Jones and Charles.

He was also the passing game coordinator for Dallas.

I don't buy that KC has better wide receivers. Chambers was dumped by San Diego and Dwayne Bowe, IMO, is starting from scratch. His 2009 was shit and it's yet to be seen whether or not his new found "seriousness" actually translates.

Yeah but you're stupid.

but would you fella.. fell iast

blow him