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Cassel 24th out of 29 quarterbacks in downfield passing. (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=235930)

What's amazing is how many of the QB's ahead of our hero Cassel have a .500 or worse record this season

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Originally Posted by Sandolf (Post 7126660)

You rather talk about Jay Cutler? :D

Jay Cutler downs three long island ice teas, six miller lites, two jaeger bombs and a body shot off the hottest Chicago waitress he takes home and bangs Saturday night before getting up after four hours, enjoying a pregame bloody mary and chucking the ball down the field with 1.0409 times the efficiency of a completely sober and celibate Matt Cassel after 10 hours of sleep.

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Originally Posted by Sandolf (Post 7126649)

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

Yeah he was a total piece of shit 7 years ago....

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7126651)

Brees enjoys the support of the 26th ranked running game.

By the way, Brady leads the NFL's top-ranked scoring offense. I'm fairly certain the credit doesn't go to BenJarvus Green-Ellis or Danny Woodhead.

No matter what you rationalize, Cassel is as bad as Brees and Brady on 10+ yard passes. That's the whole point of this thread. Ignoring that point and throwing in rushing stats means nothing.

Cassel is decent. He's developing. They are scheming to fit his strengths and paper over his weaknesses. We are winning with him being #25 in +10 yard passes.

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7126761)

No matter what you rationalize, Cassel is as bad as Brees and Brady on 10+ yard passes.

Certainly a six-game stretch in 2010 outweighs the careers of Brees and Brady.

Cassel isn't as bad as Brees and Brady. Brees and Brady are as bad as Cassel this year. And Alex Smith.

I have a feeling two quarterbacks will elevate their game by the end of the year.

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Originally Posted by Sandolf (Post 7126649)

Where's 2003 where he sat five games behind Flutie?

Look at the interceptions, BUT that isn't the whole story. Find some stats for Red Zone interceptions please.

You said he follows up good-great seasons with duds, so I figured I'd give you 2002 and 2003... oh, and that was 7 years ago. :spock:

Here are your red zone stats... the past 5 full seasons (and if you really care, the first two lines are 2009, then 2008, etc). One is Drew Brees and one is Peyton Manning (strange how they're almost identical in # of attempts... oh, and interceptions).

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BY FIELD POSITION        CMP        ATT        YDS        CMP%        YPA        LNG        TD        INT        SACK        RAT

Opp 19-1 ydline                49        87        347        56.3        3.99        18        21        1        0        100.4

Opp 9-Goal ydline        19        32        78        59.4        2.44        9        10        0        0        103.6

Opp 19-1 ydline                60        92        416        65.2        4.52        19        22        3        1        101.3

Opp 9-Goal ydline        25        38        100        65.8        2.63        9        12        2        0        87.1

Opp 19-1 ydline                60        84        314        71.4        3.74        19        23        0        0        116.8

Opp 9-Goal ydline        29        45        84        64.4        1.87        8        18        0        0        107.9

Opp 19-1 ydline                25        56        159        44.6        2.84        15        10        2        2        76.5

Opp 9-Goal ydline        11        33        47        33.3        1.42        9        7        2        2        56.7

Opp 19-1 ydline                30        49        255        61.2        5.2        19        14        3        1        88.9

Opp 9-Goal ydline        10        16        47        62.5        2.94        8        6        1        1        80.2

                        318         532        1847        0.598        3.47                143        14        7

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BY FIELD POSITION        CMP        ATT        YDS        CMP%        YPA        LNG        TD        INT        SACK        RAT

Opp 19-1 ydline                47        78        267        60.3        3.42        15        20        1        1        100.8

Opp 9-Goal ydline        23        38        92        60.5        2.42        9        17        1        0        93.6

Opp 19-1 ydline                46        68        300        67.6        4.41        19        20        1        0        110.3

Opp 9-Goal ydline        18        26        72        69.2        2.77        9        13        1        0        95.8

Opp 19-1 ydline                47        84        302        56        3.6        19        18        3        2        88.4

Opp 9-Goal ydline        20        36        103        55.6        2.86        9        14        0        1        100.5

Opp 19-1 ydline                46        81        320        56.8        3.95        19        24        2        1        95.2

Opp 9-Goal ydline        19        33        61        57.6        1.85        9        17        1        1        89.5

Opp 19-1 ydline                41        69        309        59.4        4.48        18        15        0        2        109.8

Opp 9-Goal ydline        12        25        60        48        2.4        9        8        0        1        94.2

                        319        538        1886        0.593        3.51                166        10        9

Judging by the list and the order they are in proves little more than this particular stat doesn't mean shit for wins and losses. It also doesn't account for run after the catch.

You're chasing your tail here.

The only thing that matters is that Cassel is playing well right now.

Im not really interested in tearing him down just for the excersize. You come off like you have an axe to grind.

Listen, you can pick every player in the NFL and find something they dont do well. Some more than others. Those resigned to spending thier football experience looking for those short comings and whining arent doing what I would call maximizing thier football experience. In fact, why not watch something else on Sunday.

I understand more when we are losing, but we're not. We are a team rebuilding and winning with promise for the future.

Quit making an ass of yourself.

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7126877)

Judging by the list and the order they are in proves little more than this particular stat doesn't mean shit for wins and losses. It also doesn't account for run after the catch.

Yes it does.

By the way, of the top 10 quarterbacks on this list, 7 are 3-3 or better, 6 are above .500 and 5 of those teams are winning at a .667 clip or better.

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7126881)

Yes it does.

By the way, of the top 10 quarterbacks on this list, 7 are 3-3 or better, 6 are above .500 and 5 of those teams are winning at a .667 clip or better.

I havent done the math....but couldnt the same be said for the 5 consecutive teams frrom Cassel on up?

Sanchez - 44.8 6/2
Cutler - 43.2 3/4
McNabb - 42.8 5/
Brady - 42.0 4/4
Cassel - 41.5 4/2

The top 3 on your list are 5-14 I believe.

Yeah, its useless.

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7126884)

Sanchez - 44.8 6/2
Cutler - 43.2 3/4
McNabb - 42.8 5/
Brady - 42.0 4/4
Cassel - 41.5 4/2

And guess what 4 of those 5 quarterbacks have in common?

They're supported by top 10 defenses.

It's not useless. The top three are all good players.

This guy completed 57 percent of his throws over 10 yards last season.

http://www.gambling911.com/files/pub...91309L_3.jpg?0

How'd his year end up?

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7126892)

This guy completed 57 percent of his throws over 10 yards last season.

http://www.gambling911.com/files/pub...91309L_3.jpg?0

How'd his year end up?

So you're saying Fitz is going to the Superbowl and this is a list of best to worst QBs in the league? Because if thats not what you're saying, then this is a useless stat pertaining to winning and losing. Like I said.

As far as winning and losing, more factors into a win and a loss. let me repost my original statement so you can recind yours.

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7126893)

As far as winning and losing, more factors into a win and a loss.

Agreed. Why do you think Matt Cassel is 4-2?

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7126895)

Agreed. Why do you think Matt Cassel is 4-2?

Because he's playing well enough to be 4-2.

Does this mean you'll quit whining, now that you agree the stat is useless?

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7126896)

Does this mean you'll quit whining, now that you agree the stat is useless?

I won't play your game, silly man. Goodnight.