Whatever happens, If you guys have ever had the encounters with OSHA as I have had, They don't **** around at all and some shit will be done.

Oh yeah.....ND is about to get ****ed up the ass by OSHA.

I just don't see how Kelly deserves to get fired for this.

No, but the ones that recruit kids to come to his school, preach all season long about things like teamwork and loyalty only to abandon the team the minute that another job comes along are.

So, basically, every football coach except Joe Paterno sucks.

So basically every coach then.

Do you think that coaches don't preach that shit....and instead tell the players that there may be a day in the future when they leave for greener pastures?

Exactly.

College football is as much a business as the NFL.

No, that's not what I said. He could have at least coached the bowl game instead of just basically leaving in the middle of the night and running out on the team at the drop of a hat. I'm sure you'd feel the same way if Self just quit after the Big 12 tournament and let some interim take over because Duke made him a job offer.

He didn't leave in the middle of the night. He had to get to Notre Dame because he had to start recruiting for the next season. At that time....THAT was his job.

Not even close to the same thing. Cincinnati wasn't worth a shit before he got there, they have nothing to complain about.

Yeah, I'm with you both. I'm just saying IF he's the decision maker, he bears some responsibility. I highly doubt he handles that though.

I'll assume that like in my country, you need a certificate to operate a scissor lift or cherry picker, and if that's the case the kid should have had one, and if so he would have been trained and have known better than use the damn thing in a gale. Can't help but feel sorry for the kid and his family though.
In the old days we didn't have health and safety committees for everything under the sun, used to have this old fashioned thing called common sense nobody uses anymore. For example, you can't change a light bulb yourself anymore, you gotta call and electrician.

Yeah, a lot of 20-year-olds will tell the HC of one of the most, if not "the" most, storied programs in the country to "**** off" if the job demands otherwise.

Getting ready to throw the football 70-yards. /cp

why do you need a person up there. just get a broom and duct tape.

Negatory, they let anyone operate those things here.

You don't even need a broom. Just tape a dozen week old Long John Silver's chicken planks together and use those.