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Skyy God 08-03-2011 01:34 PM

Lilja's a LG. No platoon at RT. Anything else factually wrong?

DJ's left nut 08-03-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7798458)
Lilja's a LG. No platoon at RT. Anything else factually wrong?

Lilja was the RG last season and hasn't been announced as the LG yet, has he? As for the platoon - I don't think Richardson's a surefire starter by any means. Those 2 absolutely shuffled in and out last season. I could see that being dictated by matchups and/or hot streaks as well.

mcaj22 08-03-2011 01:37 PM

"As stated earlier, the loss of Charlie Weis will be huge. New offensive coordinator Bill Muir never developed a quarterback when he held that job in Tampa Bay from 2002 to 2008, so it's likely that Matt Cassel, and consequently the offense as a whole, will regress this season."


This guy really needs to do his research to find out a simple counter to half his argument would be:

That's why the Chiefs went out and hired a QUARTERBACKS COACH (I believe for the first time under Haley's reign as coach?) this year in Jim Zorn, to counter the lack of skill in that field that Muir has.

Zorn does QBs, Muir does O-Line, Haley does WRs, Mo does RBs. This is very ****ing simple Walter Football you damn idiot.

Stats wise for QBs under Zorn, he has given them their best years to date (Campbell, Flacco)



So 85% of the article about the impact of not having Weiss, is void on this simple fact that he could have researched just by going to the Chiefs homepage or looking at camp photos/reports

MoreLemonPledge 08-03-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7798453)
I may have missed it. Did he talk about the impact of not having Weis?

As stated earlier, the loss of Charlie Weis will be huge. New offensive coordinator Bill Muir never developed a quarterback when he held that job in Tampa Bay from 2002 to 2008, so it's likely that Matt Cassel, and consequently the offense as a whole, will regress this season.


He must not know that Muir has no hand in the development of Cassel, but Zorn does.

ChiefsCountry 08-03-2011 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 7798458)
Anything else factually wrong?

Says O'Callaghan is better than Barry Richardson.

RealSNR 08-03-2011 01:39 PM

The dude is clearly gay for Charlie Weis. I don't get that, but whatever.

If he feels that way about him, he should just go to a bread factory and stick his weiner in a vat of bread dough

LOCOChief 08-03-2011 01:43 PM

His player analysis was off more than just a bit. Who from the Chiefs broke one off in the writers ass?

Lzen 08-03-2011 01:44 PM

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Breaston, meanwhile, was probably a waste of a signing.
BS. Breaston IMO will be a great addition.

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Second, the Chiefs parted ways with their best offensive lineman this offseason, Brian Waters. Second-year Jon Asamoah will step into the left guard slot. Asamoah has just one career start. He played well in that game, but the Bills didn't exactly offer much of a challenge.
This guy is living in the past. Asamoah may actually end up being an upgrade this year.

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As stated earlier, the loss of Charlie Weis will be huge. New offensive coordinator Bill Muir never developed a quarterback when he held that job in Tampa Bay from 2002 to 2008, so it's likely that Matt Cassel, and consequently the offense as a whole, will regress this season.
Hello? Ever heard of Jim Zorn? Dumb ass!

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Kansas City feasted on a ridiculously easy schedule last season; excluding Seattle for obvious reasons, the team didn't beat a single playoff squad in 2010.
Excluding Seattle for obvious reasons? I guess its not so obvious to me because I don't get it. Why? So that you can make a point/statement that isn't true?

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....they'll be better than their record indicates this season. Their brutal, late stretch of consecutive games against the Patriots, Steelers, Bears, Jets and Packers will knock them out of AFC West contention.
I agree that they will be better than their record indicates this year. My prediction is another 10-6 season. And who in the AFC West is gonna be better than KC? I think we can all agree that Denver sucks. I think Oakland is going to take a step back this year. And San Diego has been on a downward trend ever since Norv Turner took over. The division is open for KC to take once again.

keg in kc 08-03-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7798463)
Lilja was the RG last season and hasn't been announced as the LG yet, has he?

I don't know if anything's ever officially announced at this point in camp (and this is a year where none of the free agent signings are even participating yet...) but Lilja started camp at left guard, and Asamoah at right guard. I'm not saying this as a criticism of you in any way, but anybody who so much as glanced at a camp report before writing/publishing an article about the team would/should have known that.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 08-03-2011 01:58 PM

lol at the 3-7 after December 5th stat when this team was so clearly awful 2 years ago. Atleast we're 4-7 after December 4th

ChiefMojo 08-03-2011 02:50 PM

Does he realize that actually our #1 rated rushing attack last year was CALLED by Muir. Yup, Muir called 100% of our run plays last season and Weis was in charge of the passing calls (I'm sure Haley had input.

So we enter this year with Muir once again in charge of the run game, Zorn coaching the QB's and possibly the passing game. If Zorn doesn't control the passing game then Haley will. Where in this mixture does it sound like a bad situation.

Dude needs to get up off of Weis's nuts.

Sure we could end up at 5-11, but the way he wrote it, you would think we were a 8-8 team. But as we know, he hates Pioli.

BWillie 08-03-2011 03:15 PM

I actually agree with him about Charlie Weis. I think our offense, most specifically our passing game will struggle even with all the weapons we have. Charlie Weis is a fantastic O-Coordinator. I just think it was a battle of ego's with Haley and Weis.

ChiefMojo 08-03-2011 03:20 PM

Wasn't Haley considered a fantastic OC before coming to KC?

Shag 08-03-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 7798488)
Excluding Seattle for obvious reasons? I guess its not so obvious to me because I don't get it. Why? So that you can make a point/statement that isn't true?

I'm assuming that's due to Seattle making the playoffs at 7-9...

keg in kc 08-03-2011 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo (Post 7798832)
Wasn't Haley considered a fantastic OC before coming to KC?

For a fairly limited time. If I remember correctly he had the job throughout 2007 but didn't call plays for most of the season. The Superbowl year was completely his baby, though.

Probably not a popular opinion, but I tend to think coordinators are generally as good as the players they have to work with. That's not to say that a bad one can't drag a unit down, but it's hard to look like a genious if you don't have any talent to work with. There's only so much scheming you can do to hide deficiencies.

And they do have talent now, if they can get some blocking. And if they haven't missed on their chosen QB.


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