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HemiEd 09-16-2011 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7913034)
That article was pretty brutal, but I believe it.

HemiEd 09-16-2011 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7913055)
That's an awful long bullshit article.

It was one ****ing game. ONE. People are reacting like they're 1-14 already.

Yes, losing Berry sucks. Yes, Cassel has worn out his welcome. But the team is better than it has been, and at least tasted some success (11-5 and a playoff berth was a lot better than almost anyone figured). Haley may not be the most lovable guy and maybe he's a bit too immature for the position right now, but let's not forget that Belichick didn't do so hot in his first tenure. Pioli isn't the problem. Haley probably isn't the problem. Cassel is part of the problem. The fact that it's a young team without quality depth yet is part of the problem. Losing their best young defender will be part of the problem.
10-6 and swept by the Raiders, Cassel was 11-5 with Brady's team. The team has now lost 7 in a row, so it is getting a little old.

Ace Gunner 09-16-2011 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7913026)
"But Haley felt the need to strip Weis of his playcalling duties at halftime of last season’s Wild-Card disaster, resulting in one of the worst-quarterbacked playoff games we’ve ever seen from a Chiefs passer. "

- Is there any proof of this??
Obviously this reporter isn't the sharpest tool in the shed - he completely forgot how Haley foiled Weis during the game before against the Raiders. and that SD game. And Haley punched Cassel so hard, it made Cassel's appendix explode. Damn that Haley. It's all Pioli's fault.

durtyrute 09-16-2011 12:19 PM
at least herm got us some players

Hammock Parties 09-16-2011 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7913055)
But the team is better than it has been, and at least tasted some success (11-5 and a playoff berth was a lot better than almost anyone figured).
The Chiefs were 10-6 last year, 10-7 if you count the playoff game.

That's barely any more success than Herm's Chiefs at this point.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2011 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7913055)
Pioli isn't the problem. Haley probably isn't the problem. Cassel is part of the problem.
Who traded for and gave Cassel $60 million? :hmmm:

lcarus 09-16-2011 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 7913044)
Jesus. I've never seen such shit spewed after 1 regular season game in my life.

Sick of ****ing hearing it already.
Eh, this weekend brings a new game. Hopefully we at least play a lot better so we can start to forget week 1s debacle.

lcarus 09-16-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7913111)
Who traded for and gave Cassel $60 million? :hmmm:
That's the problem I have with Pioli. He's the one that acquired Cassel and gave him that contract before he proved he's worth that much. He's the one that hired Haley (and the book isn't completed on him just yet). He's the one who drafted Tyson Jackson and the rest of that awful draft class. 2010 was better, and 2011 obviously is too early to judge fairly.

whoman69 09-16-2011 12:28 PM
People whine that its only one game. But that one game showed how woefully prepared this team was coming into this system. We should get better, but we're getting better from a hole already. The other teams will get better too, so we stay behind and don't catch up. The over/under for wins for KC according to ESPN right now is 6 and I'll take the under.

Hammock Parties 09-16-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7913145)
People whine that its only one game. But that one game showed how woefully prepared this team was coming into this system. We should get better, but we're getting better from a hole already. The other teams will get better too, so we stay behind and don't catch up. The over/under for wins for KC according to ESPN right now is 6 and I'll take the under.
It's not just one game. It's the entire offseason and the course of two-plus years.

Scary thought - Herm's Chiefs were better at throwing the ball.

BigMeatballDave 09-16-2011 12:32 PM
The Kansas City Chiefs...

I don't know how to quit you...

Fish 09-16-2011 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 7913145)
People whine that its only one game. But that one game showed how woefully prepared this team was coming into this system. We should get better, but we're getting better from a hole already. The other teams will get better too, so we stay behind and don't catch up. The over/under for wins for KC according to ESPN right now is 6 and I'll take the under.
It is just one game. But at the same time, it's the one game that the Chiefs have said they've been preparing for during the entire offseason. Haley's mantra all offseason was, "We don't care about the preseason games, all we're trying to do is prepare for the game against Buffalo." That "one game" was supposed to be the grand culmination of all the offseason work, and the reason they looked so sluggish and unprepared in preseason games.

-King- 09-16-2011 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7913077)
10-6 and swept by the Raiders, Cassel was 11-5 with Brady's team. The team has now lost 7 in a row, so it is getting a little old.
Holy shit. people count preseason losses as part of streaks now?
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booger 09-16-2011 12:45 PM
WPI, Nick "Assclown" Athan, Claythan, smelling like Rhonda Moss's armpit hanky.

ChiefGator 09-16-2011 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7913022)
What is Todd Haley’s identity? The passing game. From his early days as a wide receivers coach to passing game coordinator with the Dallas Cowboys to offensive coordinator with the high-flying Arizona Cardinals, Haley’s identity is throwing the football. Undoubtedly, he knows the modern NFL is being dominated by teams who can strike fear in opponents with the passing game.
I don't think this is really fair. As soon as Haley got he preached he wanted a smash-mouth running team. And in Arizona their one weakness was they would try to run the ball so much in the first quarter, even though it wasn't working. They COULDN'T run, it's not that he didn't WANT them to run.


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