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luv 09-19-2011 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7924310)
No Charles? **** that. I want to watch Cassel fail all season long. I want him to throw for 9 TDs and 50 INTs.

And may those 9 TDs be to Bowe.

Mr. Laz 09-19-2011 12:30 PM

Yea,yea,yea let's start a rookie QB and let Muir/Haley just destroy him.


David Carr II


Some seriously brain damaged morons around here nowadays.

Pants 09-19-2011 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7924318)
I've caught myself asking that same question the past 2 weeks, but there is a simple answer.

Stanzi has some tools that could allow him to be a solid QB in the league. That said, playing him too early would probably ruin him, because I doubt he's ready. I'm a big hawk fan and before the draft compared Stanzi to Cassel.

He's got the size, he's got the arm, he's got the work ethic, he's got experience in the big games(which Cassel doesn't).....BUT for every game he looked great or every fantastic throw made under pressure, he'd make the most bone-headed Casselesque throw into triple coverage.

No offseason, no minicamps.....no work in the offseason in a professional capacity....no.

I'd rather he have more time to study and learn before being thrown to the wolves. maybe later in the season for experience.

I thought Stanzi was a gunslinger? He'd throw into triple coverage believing he'd make it fit. Cassel doesn't believe when he throws, he hopes. Seeing Stanzi looking downfield dodging the pressure during one of the preseasons games pretty much solidified him as an anti-Cassel in my mind.

Is he a chess grandmaster of the Manning/Brady cut like Luck is said to be? Probably not. He's not Cassel either though.

Fish 09-19-2011 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7924303)
Dude is a rookie ****ing quarterback who had no off season. That's probably why.

Yeah dog....

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4th and Long 09-19-2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7924310)
No Charles? **** that. I want to watch Cassel fail all season long. I want him to throw for 9 TDs and 50 INTs.

Your math is off on the interceptions.

4.5 INTs per game
X
16 Weeks
72 INTs

Pants 09-19-2011 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7924334)

touche

Window Licking Whiner 09-19-2011 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7924327)
Yea,yea,yea let's start a rookie QB and let Muir/Haley just destroy him.


David Carr II


Some seriously brain damaged morons around here nowadays.

When you say destroy, do you mean destroyed like we were at home against hte bills when Cassel had a great game?

Or perhaps you mean destroyed like we were in Detroit?

Get this through your head, our chiefs are already destroyed this year....Destroyed....Can stanzi do any worse?

If so how? What throw 3 int's and fumble it up? Really how would it be worse?

If he gets hurt? You mean like Moeaki, Baldwin, Berry, charles, (prolly Hali)?

Really what do we lose?

Frankie 09-19-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 7924276)
Stanzi posts have been on here but I'm currious do you start him now? Or do you stick with cassel and see if he can turn it around?


Now more than ever this is becoming a reality.

I certainly would not start him. But I would have him IN UNIFORM AND ON THE SIDELINE to go in when the game is out of reach. GET HIM SOME ****ING NFL EXPERIENCE!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=250173

the Talking Can 09-19-2011 12:36 PM

Cassel owns this suck parade...he's not getting off that easy

he and Pioli are going to suffer the whole thing

Frankie 09-19-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 7924344)
When you say destroy, do you mean destroyed like we were at home against hte bills when Cassel had a great game?

Or perhaps you mean destroyed like we were in Detroit?

Get this through your head, our chiefs are already destroyed this year....Destroyed....Can stanzi do any worse?

If so how? What throw 3 int's and fumble it up? Really how would it be worse?

If he gets hurt? You mean like Moeaki, Baldwin, Berry, charles, (prolly Hali)?

Really what do we lose?

Laz was saying let's not destroy the guy, not the team.

keg in kc 09-19-2011 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 7924318)
I've caught myself asking that same question the past 2 weeks, but there is a simple answer.

Stanzi has some tools that could allow him to be a solid QB in the league. That said, playing him too early would probably ruin him, because I doubt he's ready. I'm a big hawk fan and before the draft compared Stanzi to Cassel.

He's got the size, he's got the arm, he's got the work ethic, he's got experience in the big games(which Cassel doesn't).....BUT for every game he looked great or every fantastic throw made under pressure, he'd make the most bone-headed Casselesque throw into triple coverage.

No offseason, no minicamps.....no work in the offseason in a professional capacity....no.

I'd rather he have more time to study and learn before being thrown to the wolves. maybe later in the season for experience.

That's exactly how I see it. Maybe get him some snaps (not a start, time in a game) later in the season if he shows he's ready. (I think the fact that he's inactive to this point speaks to his current readiness)

And I don't stick with Cassel through thick and thin. Scour the waver wire, make a trade for another backup, whatever it takes to make the position competitive (as in competitive in a game, giving the team a chance to win).

As far as the '12 draft, if we're in position I say take Luck or another QB, regardless of Stanzi. There's absolutely no downside to having multiple developmental quarterbacks. Best case scenario is that they both flourish and you have the opportunity to trade one of them, as the Chargers were able to do with Brees and Rivers. Worst case (well, not 'worst' technically; that would be both flopping) is that one is what you want as a starter and the other is a career backup.

Iowanian 09-19-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 7924333)
I thought Stanzi was a gunslinger? He'd throw into triple coverage believing he'd make it fit. Cassel doesn't believe when he throws, he hopes. Seeing Stanzi looking downfield dodging the pressure during one of the preseasons games pretty much solidified him as an anti-Cassel in my mind.

Is he a chess grandmaster of the Manning/Brady cut like Luck is said to be? Probably not. He's not Cassel either though.


He does have an arm and when he throws it, I do think he believes he'll get the ball through the needle. As an Iowa fan, I've seen him make some awesome throws, in big games, last play of game, running out of time on 4th down and you'll say "holy shit"....and then he'll be in a game vs bubble gum state, and he'll wobble-launch 2 consecutive passes into the gut of a 500lb tackle who is only playing because 3 starters have the juicy poops.

With the right coaching, he may very well make this football thing a career, but that's more likely with more time IMO. I'll gladly own it if I'm wrong and I hope I am, but I think he's Todd Collins.


I'd love to see him get some mop-up or blow-out snaps, but not as a starter this year.

Window Licking Whiner 09-19-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 7924351)
Laz was saying let's not destroy the guy, not the team.

Yeah I got it, but my point remains the same. They dont want him as QBOTF anyways, my only point is, since he's never gonna get a decent shot, put him in. Hell we let Brodie try...we had no problem breaking Mr. Glass....

The Franchise 09-19-2011 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 7924340)
Your math is off on the interceptions.

4.5 INTs per game
X
16 Weeks
72 INTs

That would be the greatest thing ever.

Epic Fail 007 09-19-2011 12:50 PM

u guy s bring up hes only a rookie,but big ben won the sb his rookie yr


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