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Mr. Laz 10-03-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7964990)
Justin Houston had a terrible game.

x10

rook got schooled all day long

Okie_Apparition 10-03-2011 05:58 PM

I bet he & Muir can finish each other's popping joints

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 05:59 PM

This Lilja thing needs to be blown up. It's a pretty huge negative against Pioli with Waters gone. The guy is basically a bottom 5 guard through 4 games.

suzzer99 10-03-2011 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7965016)
He's been very good, yet posters continue to champion the need for a new LT; it's very strange.

The LT fetish is not based on rational thought, but a basic emotional need.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 06:02 PM

DJ and Belcher are both in the top 10 overall, and Belcher is a top 5 run stopper.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-03-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7965078)
DJ and Belcher are both in the top 10 overall, and Belcher is a top 5 run stopper.

:D Belcher backers assemble

suzzer99 10-03-2011 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 7965029)
I meant to start a thread on Houston's game, or at least mention it somewhere. He had a horrible game, it seemed. He was beaten so badly on the run and the pass that I thought he was going to start belting out, "What's Love Got To Do With It".

The non-rush 3-4 OLB is a really steep learning curve. We know he has the physical talent, I have no problem giving Houston all year to learn that position as long as he bounces back from a bad game and shows general improvement.

O.city 10-03-2011 06:04 PM

Well I think it's about time that Lilja is replaced. Hudson should be playing there and seeing first hand how to play center.

O.city 10-03-2011 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 7965086)
The non-rush 3-4 LB is a really steep learning curve. We know he has the physical talent, I have no problem giving Houston all year to learn that position as long as he bounces back from a bad game and shows general improvement.

Yeah my line of thinking is that a guys learns a position faster by playing. Not by sitting on the bench.

suzzer99 10-03-2011 06:05 PM

Wasn't Lillja near pro-bowl level last year? Should we really give up on him after 4 games this year? Maybe he's just on board with S4L. We need a secret handshake or something.

lcarus 10-03-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 7965088)
Well I think it's about time that Lilja is replaced. Hudson should be playing there and seeing first hand how to play center.

Why not just let him play center then.

O.city 10-03-2011 06:07 PM

Well I think at this time, the need is higher for a LG than center. Atleast until a little later on in the year when Wiegmann totally wears down.

Rain Man 10-03-2011 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7965070)
This Lilja thing needs to be blown up. It's a pretty huge negative against Pioli with Waters gone. The guy is basically a bottom 5 guard through 4 games.


I still don't get the Waters thing. The guy was a pro bowler, we were a gazillion dollars under the salary cap, and the NFL Network said that NFL players said he was in the top 100 players in the league.

I guess one rationale is that they decided that he was third-best guard on the team and/or they had to get Asamoah on the field for long-term purposes. But if it's the latter case then they judged Lilja to be better than Waters, and a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

I know it was popular around here to say that Waters was no good, but again, a lot of facts would argue otherwise.

Quesadilla Joe 10-03-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7964990)

6. Tamba Hali was a freaking BEAST with a +7.4, 7 QB pressures, 2 sacks and 2 hits. AND three stops. That is unheard of.

Von Miller has an overall SEASON grade of 12.6 as of last week. And it should be higher this week because he added two more sacks to his season total.

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Von Miller has the potential to be the best at the position for years to come and already leads our 4-3 OLB rankings with a 12.6 overall grade in three games.
http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...titans-week-3/

Hammock Parties 10-03-2011 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 7965093)
Wasn't Lillja near pro-bowl level last year? Should we really give up on him after 4 games this year? Maybe he's just on board with S4L. We need a secret handshake or something.

Guards tend to hit a wall at a certain age. John Welbourn was good here one year and then fell off a cliff.

It's Pioli's job to anticipate that and right now it looks like another strike against him.


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