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The Franchise 11-08-2011 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 8091315)
I just want us to have a competent OC (Muir is not that) that is here for more than a single season. I think this would go a long way to that consistency Haley says he is looking for. Changing OC every year is not helping Cassel. Not sure how much good it would do but it couldn't hurt.
Cassel being a piece of shit is not helping Cassel. He could have Weis as his OC for 5 years and he would still be ****ing mediocre.

DonkyPuncher 11-08-2011 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8091272)
I pretty much agree, but I think he needs a new OC (and obviously a QB). Offensive playcalling is atrocious.
Maybe Haley is doing this on purpose, making Cassel look even worse than he is, he never really wanted Cassel anyways, pretty sure that was a Pioli deal because truth be told he could call the plays without there being any problem and i'm sure he is way better at it than Muir

jspchief 11-08-2011 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Taco John (Post 8091172)
You expect him to put some pressure on the coach if he has any doubts about the direction he's going.
In the media? No I definitely don't expect that, unless he's Al Davis or Jerry Jones.

HemiEd 11-08-2011 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8091328)
How would throwing the players under the bus garner Haley any respect from his players? If anything they would resent him for it, even if they knew it to be the truth. Not only that, but it's not as though Haley and his coaching staff are without blame, I think we all agree the game plan on defense and lack of adjustments were terrible on their part. You guys criticized a coach who takes the blame, but praise QB's who do the same. Get a clue.
Well said. We saw Herm blame everyone but himself, including the players, week in and week out. How did that work out?

Sofa King 11-08-2011 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkyPuncher (Post 8091350)
Maybe Haley is doing this on purpose, making Cassel look even worse than he is, he never really wanted Cassel anyways, pretty sure that was a Pioli deal because truth be told he could call the plays without there being any problem and i'm sure he is way better at it than Muir
Yes. Because coaches in their first head coaching job, and possibly last if they fail, love to make their QB look like shit. Nothing makes them happier than making the players on their team worse.

Chiefnj2 11-08-2011 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkyPuncher (Post 8091350)
Maybe Haley is doing this on purpose, making Cassel look even worse than he is, he never really wanted Cassel anyways, pretty sure that was a Pioli deal because truth be told he could call the plays without there being any problem and i'm sure he is way better at it than Muir
Haley can call plays without any problem? Did you happen to miss the 2009 season?

O.city 11-08-2011 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8091446)
Haley can call plays without any problem? Did you happen to miss the 2009 season?
Granted, with the talent we had on the field in that season, I don't think it mattered who called plays.

aturnis 11-08-2011 09:14 AM
Dude, the emergence of Charles, Bowe and Moeaki probably had a hell of a lot to do with why Weis was so successful in comparison to Haley's 2009 season as OC. Not only that, but Weis had a lot more time to coach Cassel one on one than the head coach, who has to delegate his time to the entire team, ever would.

aturnis 11-08-2011 09:18 AM
Not to mention a guy like Weigmann at center, better blocking from the RB's and better than what was behind Bowe at receiver(still terrible).

DonkyPuncher 11-08-2011 09:21 AM
Even with a good oc I still don't believe Cassel has the talent, arm strength, pocket awarness or balls to run a super bowl worthy offense and he damn sure doesn't have the talent around him this year minus our wide receivers, maybe we should have spent alittle bit of money and brought in a running back and a tight end when we had that chance, now we are stuck with Pope and O'Connel and granted Battle has stepped up he still makes me nervous everytime he touches the ball with his history of putting the ball on the field

Mr. Laz 11-08-2011 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8091206)
Okay Pioli. How about this? How about giving Haley a quarterback who isn't reading at a fourth grade level and counts with his fingers?

FAX
you've gone off the deep end


how sad

MahiMike 11-08-2011 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 8091272)
I pretty much agree, but I think he needs a new OC (and obviously a QB). Offensive playcalling is atrocious.
True dat. That was the biggest problem on Sunday.

MahiMike 11-08-2011 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8091458)
Dude, the emergence of Charles, Bowe and Moeaki probably had a hell of a lot to do with why Weis was so successful in comparison to Haley's 2009 season as OC. Not only that, but Weis had a lot more time to coach Cassel one on one than the head coach, who has to delegate his time to the entire team, ever would.
Judging by the lackluster season of the Gators this year, Weis doesn't look like a world beater.

The Franchise 11-08-2011 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8091481)
you've gone off the deep end


how sad
So you're saying that Cassel is good?

Chiefnj2 11-08-2011 09:54 AM
Why in the world would Haley want to sign an extension to work for a team with an egomaniac GM who won't let him play the players he wants, or draft the players he wants?


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