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Window Licking Whiner 11-09-2011 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 8094956)
I see on the blog that you paid your lawyer $4K last November. What's the total tally up to now?


you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

Dave Lane 11-09-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8094912)
You're in the clear, dude. Wash your hands of this and run away.

Or this. Yeah totally this now that I think of it.

Dave Lane 11-09-2011 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094961)
She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Yes

Deberg_1990 11-09-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094961)
Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Dont put it past some on this board....

Predarat 11-09-2011 01:35 PM

That bitch is a slore.

Nightfyre 11-09-2011 01:35 PM

Okay, given that she has testified that it is your child, do you not receive any parental rights?

Sofa King 11-09-2011 01:36 PM

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RockChalk 11-09-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094961)
She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Don't worry about some of the mentally-challenged posters on this board. You're doing what almost any father would (and should) do

Pants 11-09-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094963)
you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

It's a good thing you have the means to do so.

Brock 11-09-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094961)
She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Yes, we all know that crazy women never lie and change the story later. If I was in your shoes, I just told you what I'd do. You need to think about what you're signing up for on the off chance that the kid might need a kidney from you someday.

You've been given a gift. Take it and run.

rageeumr 11-09-2011 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094963)
you dont want to know...it's cost me a fortune, and will continue to.

And that doesnt count the travel costs associated with flying to Utah every other month for hearings

Well, man, you'll get nothing but respect from me. If someone tried to take either of my kids away from me I'd fight with everything I have. I commend you for doing the same.

Window Licking Whiner 11-09-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 8094969)
Okay, given that she has testified that it is your child, do you not receive any parental rights?


None...because the laws say that the only way I can petition for custody and visititation is with DNA test results that show a 99.9% result of it being my kid...and the only way to get a DNA test is by having standing to ask for one...which their double laws wont allow me to.

Amnorix 11-09-2011 01:41 PM

To be blunt, the LAW, which is based on ancient precepts long pre-dating such things as DNA (at least in the field of family law) does not give a goddamn about your "rights" as the father. It cares about one thing and one thing only -- "the best interests of the child."

Because it is in the best interests of the child, there is usually an automatic and conclusive presumption that the husband of a woman giving birth IS THE FATHER.

Your wife gave birth even though you're both Swedish and the kid is clearly biracial? The law doesn't care. Oh, you had a vasectomy too? The law doesn't care. Wait, your penis was actually removed in a horrific wood-chipper incident 8 years ago and the kid is now 2? The law doesn't care.

That law is changing, but VERY slowly. Not sure what the law is in your jurisdiction, but in some places, all the testimony in the world won't work to change it.

vailpass 11-09-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs_va (Post 8094961)
She's testified that I am the father, so there's no might to it.

And it's not her life I'm volunteering to be in (while I know it comes with it), it's my kids.

Put yourself in my shoes, if you knew it was your son..you'd just walk away and never try to be apart of his life?

Move to the inner city, it's much easier to do there.

Window Licking Whiner 11-09-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8094987)
To be blunt, the LAW, which is based on ancient precepts long pre-dating such things as DNA (at least in the field of family law) does not give a goddamn about your "rights" as the father. It cares about one thing and one thing only -- "the best interests of the child."

Because it is in the best interests of the child, there is usually an automatic and conclusive presumption that the husband of a woman giving birth IS THE FATHER.

Your wife gave birth even though you're both Swedish and the kid is clearly biracial? The law doesn't care. Oh, you had a vasectomy too? The law doesn't care. Wait, your penis was actually removed in a horrific wood-chipper incident 8 years ago and the kid is now 2? The law doesn't care.

That law is changing, but VERY slowly. Not sure what the law is in your jurisdiction, but in some places, all the testimony in the world won't work to change it.

We're not even at the 'best interests of the child' phase yet. That's the custody portion of the case.

This is about the step prior to that. There are two sets of laws governing standing to pursue these actions, and they currently only use one set of them (which are judge made not legislature based) *If they had used the other set i would have won*.

This is about the inequality of laws like these that only men have to abide.

And someone has to go first, else it will never change. I have no delusions of grandeur...shit I'm a Chiefs Fan...but it isnt right that these laws are used to strip fathers (and fathers only), women dont have to endure "standing" when they ask for a DNA test on men (ask Justin Beiber)..and if no one ever fights, it will never change.


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