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Rams Fan 12-18-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8215836)
So do I. I have never liked him and was pretty peeved when they picked him up. Great first game. Let's see if he can overcome his 'moody' reputation and become a good consistent solid QB which has eluded him to date. I remain skeptical but for today, I'm convinced.

Let's see if you'll realize that Haley wasn't the big problem.

007 12-18-2011 03:49 PM

we were down 7-6

tk13 12-18-2011 03:50 PM

Orton can sling it around. I forget the exact stat... but when we claimed him they had a stat on ESPN about how Orton was literally one of the league's top QBs throwing beyond 15 yards.

The flipside is he forces things sometimes, and he struggles in the red zone sometimes as well. But he absolutely can make all the NFL throws, and I'm not sure he's ever played with a group of WRs this talented.

The Bad Guy 12-18-2011 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 8215800)
Hence, why I stated that signing Orton could signal the end of the Cassel era in KC.

Shocker, TW tries to make another thread about his pretend genius.

You're right 99 times out of 100. Congrats on that 1%

Rams Fan 12-18-2011 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8215871)
Shocker, TW tries to make another thread about his pretend genius.

You're right 99 times out of 100. Congrats on that 1%

He is the 1%.

milkman 12-18-2011 03:53 PM

What we saw today is that even just a mediocre QB who can make reads and deliver the ball accurately and on time, and whose arm strength has to be respected by the defense, can improve the play of those around him.

Except in short yardage situations, the OL opened holes for the running game, and in pass protect, Orton had all day to throw.

And these receivers caught damn near everything.

Imagine what it would be like with a better than mediocre QB.

memyselfI 12-18-2011 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbucks Fan (Post 8215847)
Let's see if you'll realize that Haley wasn't the big problem.

He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

teedubya 12-18-2011 03:53 PM

Orton can stay in KC as long as he wants, IMO. Remember this... he is playing with a ****ed up throwing hand!

I was very impressed with him. Great game. It is only ONE game, but I was NEVER this encouraged with Casshole.

SenselessChiefsFan 12-18-2011 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8215784)
and quite a few people here should be doling them out as well... :)

Leonard Pope? Big catches. Barry Richardson? Nice job.

Same cast of characters, same playcalling (McCluster up the middle, anyone?)...

Yet Orton has 300 yards passing in a game where we led the entire way.

Yeah, I wanted to see Stanzi play and I still do.

But thank you Kyle Orton for making it ABUNDANTLY clear how much of a waste Matt Cassel is...

Of course. Same everything. I mean, other than the head coach, but that made no difference.

I will say that Orton played well. And, I am glad the Chiefs have more options at QB going into next year.

But, to say the situation is the same is foolish.

Rams Fan 12-18-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8215885)
He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

LMAO ROFL

Haley's a ****ing coach. He can only do so much with the talent he is given. He isn't Tim Tebow who can part the red ****ing sea.

Pioli didn't supply him with a QB capable of winning consistently in the NFL.

mnchiefsguy 12-18-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 8215833)
What pisses me off is Haley running Palko out there for 4 games out of spite.

Amen brother. If Orton plays, we beat the Steelers, and who knows what else happens from there? Haley completely ****ed the entire season beyond all hope with his playing of Palko.

Three7s 12-18-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8215883)
What we saw today is that even just a mediocre QB who can make reads and deliver the ball accurately and on time, and whose arm strength has to be respected by the defense, can improve the play of those around him.

Except in short yardage situations, the OL opened holes for the running game, and in pass protect, Orton had all day to throw.

And these receivers caught damn near everything.

Imagine what it would be like with a better than mediocre QB.

So, basically, Orton was similar to Trent Green?

dirk digler 12-18-2011 03:57 PM

Orton played a great game no doubt but let's remember they were playing one if not the worst D in the NFL. Let's see what he does the next couple of weeks.

FringeNC 12-18-2011 03:57 PM

After watching a competent QB like Orton, not only is Cassel not a legit starter, he isn't even a good backup QB.

htismaqe 12-18-2011 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 8215885)
He was the big problem. He was NOT, however, the ONLY problem.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. No surprise.


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