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jidar 12-20-2011 08:52 AM

The Orton thing

It's the best QB play we've seen in awhile, but that's not saying much.
I'm okay with Orton at QB, but I realize it's mostly because I've seen such shitty QB play here for the past few years. When you're eating ramen noodles every day then microwave pizza seems like gourmet fare. Thing is, you'll get tired of Microwave pizza pretty quick too and then we'll all be back to bitching about drafting a QBOTF.

Hammock Parties 12-20-2011 08:54 AM

Kyle Orton struggles in a low point for Broncos vs. Chiefs

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Kyle Orton threw high, he threw low, he threw under duress, but mostly he threw incomplete.

In what was his most inaccurate game as the Broncos' quarterback, Orton completed only 9-of-28 passes Sunday in a 10-6 loss to the Kansas City Chiefs.

There were games this season when Orton threw for 476 yards, 370 yards and 347 yards, and it wasn't enough as the Broncos still lost.

Finally, the defense holds an opponent to 10 points, and Orton throws his first clunker of the season. With the Broncos, it's always something.

Dexter Manley 12-20-2011 08:55 AM

Maybe if we offer the Bears both Orton and Cassel, they'll give us Cutler...

Deberg_1990 12-20-2011 08:55 AM

People have gotten so tired of how bad Cassel is, anything other than him is viewed as a miracle upgrade.

I dont mind Orton for a year or two. I think hes decent and probably a top 15 guy.

BoneKrusher 12-20-2011 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8222426)
People have gotten so tired of how bad Cassel is, anything other than him is viewed as a miracle upgrade.

I dont mind Orton for a year or two. I think hes decent and probably a top 15 guy.

i agree.

KCUnited 12-20-2011 09:01 AM

I shit you not, I watched the game on Sunday with 4 dudes that went from "draft and develop a QB or run Pioli out of town" to "we're a stout defense away from the SB" in a matter of 4 quarters and 10 pitchers of beer.

Simply Red 12-20-2011 09:02 AM

it's at least nice seeing someone not get crushed every snap. With Orton at least they have somewhat of a team. I still say get younger, though.

Chiefnj2 12-20-2011 09:08 AM

He's very inconsistent.

As far as having great weapons in KC, people need to get a grip. Bowe can be invisible just as many times as he makes a great catch. Breaston is a good slot receiver, and Baldwin is still a complete unknown.

The Bad Guy 12-20-2011 09:11 AM

Give Orton a 2 year deal. Nothing over that.

Beef Supreme 12-20-2011 09:12 AM

Orton will work for now. ANYTHING to get rid of Cassel and get an NFL caliber QB on the field. Like everyone else, I'm not confident he is the long term answer and would like to see us draft a QB. But you never know, Orton might just figure it all out and start beasting.

One of his main knocks in Denver was he could drive it up and down the field but couldn't stick it in the end zone. We saw that on Sunday. But the play calling was ass, so it's not all on him. If he can figure out the red zone with big physical receivers like Bowe, Baldwin, and even Pope, he might turn out ok.

Reerun_KC 12-20-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8222466)
Give Orton a 2 year deal. Nothing over that.

And that is being generous...

2 years at backup salary to be a #2 or #3 on the depth chart is fine, anything over that and he can walk...


He would be a decent backup to our franchise starting QB next year...

Hammock Parties 12-20-2011 09:13 AM

The only thing I will say in Orton's defense:

He never had a running game AND a defense in Denver.

The Broncos were 18th in rushing and 7th in defense his first year.

His second year they were 26th in rushing and 32nd in defense.

In KC he will most likely have a top 10 running game and top 15 defense next season.

Deberg_1990 12-20-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8222453)
He's very inconsistent.

As far as having great weapons in KC, people need to get a grip. Bowe can be invisible just as many times as he makes a great catch. Breaston is a good slot receiver, and Baldwin is still a complete unknown.

Bowe hasnt been invisible for awhile, Breaston is solid and Baldwin has shown plenty of potential this year in a handful of games.

Not saying Orton is savior, but with more time to work with our team, getting our injured stars back next year, and another solid draft, this is definately a playoff team in 12.

suds79 12-20-2011 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8222466)
Give Orton a 2 year deal. Nothing over that.

Hard to see Orton in KC next year. I think we can all agree don't sign him to a long term, big $$ deal. But I think Kyle is going to get an opportunity to sign a long term deal somewhere. He's only 29.

We just need to get that 1st round QB and play him so it doesn't matter what happens with Cassel or Orton.

cabletech94 12-20-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8222474)
The only thing I will say in Orton's defense:

He never had a running game AND a defense in Denver.

The Broncos were 18th in rushing and 7th in defense his first year.

His second year they were 26th in rushing and 32nd in defense.

In KC he will most likely have a top 10 running game and top 15 defense next season.

That is exciting. Can't wait for September, but these next 2 weeks might be hella fun!


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