Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8263870)

Honestly....I kinda like the 'franchise Orton' idea,

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8263870)

Honestly....I kinda like the 'franchise Orton' idea, but you absolutely have to get Bowe and Carr re-signed first.

If you can get those 2 on long-term deals, you have a bunch of cap space still (the first year of those deals won't be onerous). There aren't a lot of FAs that are going to be legitimate difference makers; there rarely is.

You know that Orton's not going to want to come back on a short-term deal and that teams are actually likely to give him a pretty nice little contract. You also know that Cassel has become downright cheap, so much so that he could be a viable backup QB.

So keep Cassel and franchise Orton. All it costs is money and if nothing else, you can deal Orton if need be. It gives us a veteran QB that we can win with for at least one more season while grooming a legitimate QBOTF.

We probably want both Carr and Bowe long-term anyway, so why use the franchise tag on either of them? In this case, the best way to utilize our assets may very well be to get those 2 guys signed and then franchise Orton.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8263867)

Face the facts, dude...we are probably not drafting a QB that will be worthy of starting this year. That being the case I'd much rather see Orton than Cassel

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8263887)

Isn't the franchise number QB's like 18 million dollars per?

that's nuts

Sign Carr
Tag Bowe (possible trade purposes?)
sign Orton as a transition type guy
look for a young QB


if Orton is looking for job security and doesn't want a transitional type deal then you move on.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8263893)

Yeah then you're stuck with Cassel though

Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 8263876)

Tag Bowe, there will be enough interest in him to get some good picks for him. Sign Carr and Orton

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8263870)

Honestly....I kinda like the 'franchise Orton' idea, but you absolutely have to get Bowe and Carr re-signed first.

If you can get those 2 on long-term deals, you have a bunch of cap space still (the first year of those deals won't be onerous). There aren't a lot of FAs that are going to be legitimate difference makers; there rarely is.

You know that Orton's not going to want to come back on a short-term deal and that teams are actually likely to give him a pretty nice little contract. You also know that Cassel has become downright cheap, so much so that he could be a viable backup QB.

So keep Cassel and franchise Orton. All it costs is money and if nothing else, you can deal Orton if need be. It gives us a veteran QB that we can win with for at least one more season while grooming a legitimate QBOTF.

We probably want both Carr and Bowe long-term anyway, so why use the franchise tag on either of them? In this case, the best way to utilize our assets may very well be to get those 2 guys signed and then franchise Orton.

Originally Posted by petegz28 (Post 8263890)

Yes, you have to sign Bowe and Carr. If that can be done you might as well Franchise Orton, cut Cassel, and see what you can get this year or next in the draft.