That is very true DJ.


If we got Manning, I'd be alright with something like that. We could try and trade back to say the early 20's and get Konz and an extra second. We could use the 2 seconds to get a RT and which ever ILB doesn't go in the first if he is still around. Get Miller or Polk in the third.

the chiefs need to trade down, pick up a 2nd or 3rd and use that on a RB...

An offseason consisting of adding

A healthy P. Manning, P. Soliai, Peter Konz, Mike Adams, Chris Polk, would be a very solid offseason IMO.

Uh...ya think?

"Very solid"? Jesus, it would be the most insane offseason in the history of the franchise. It would make us no worse than the 3rd best team in the AFC, presuming a healthy Manning. And once you get that high, you're a legit contender (afterall, both the Ravens and the 9ers were a couple of special teams screwups from the SB).

I'd say filling the QB position with a HOFer, the NT position with a top 15 guy, retaining our key FAs, adding a guy that appears to be one of the best RT prospects in the draft, as well as the best C prospect in the draft (therefore rebuilding 40% of our O-line; 60% if you count moving Hudson to RG) and adding a nice multi-purpose back would be slightly more than a 'very solid' offseason.

It could be done man.

I don't think Adams will be a first round pick. He might after the combine and Senior Bowl but I've seen him being stated as a likely 2 rounder.

It would only require signing 2 fa's also, which isn't really that crazy. I put a little mock together.

1st: Konz after trading back
2a. Burfict
2b. Adams
3. Polk
4. Egnew
5. safety from Boise State
6. Joe Adams
7. Best Blocking TE available.

I know it probably won't work out that way but that would be a dynamite ****ing draft.

Oh, I know it could be done. It's what pisses me right the hell off.

This team is excruciatingly close to actually being one of the best teams in football.

Nothing you're suggesting is that far-fetched. And yeah, if things broke like that and Manning could come back at 90% of what he was in a Chiefs uniform, I'd start seriously pondering Super Bowl chances.

But why do we kill ourselves like this? We're not going to pursue Manning. And while Pioli managed to trade back intelligently once, he's also failed to do so once.

The chances of us having a draft like 2011 are no greater than the chances of us having a draft like 2009. In reality, it will probably end up looking a lot like 2010, and that draft is just shaping up okay at this point.

If it happened like you're suggesting, it would be a goddamn miracle. It would be a blessing from the football gods and an apology for all the evils they've inflicted on us over the last several decades.

It would be a damn sight more than "Very solid".

But it ain't gonna happen.

The thing with doing what I said, is that not only does that make us immediate SB contenders but it sets us up to be solid after manning is gone.


We would have to develop a guy to take the reigns after Manning is done.

I think the front office knows it has to make a splash. An offseason like I said would make season tickets sales explode.

I said this in the other thread and I'll say it again, if we sign Manning (which we won't) we have to take Tannehill.

If Manning is healthy, we wouldn't be in position to draft a quarterback that is worth a shit for some time and Tannehill could be the perfect guy to groom. Favre/Rogers2

If Tannehill is off the board when we pick, Richardson would be the next best pick.

Richardson isn't just a great runner/punisher, he is a really good pass protector and would help protect Manning and keep the defense honest against him.

With Albert locking down the LT spot in a contract year, getting Moeaki back (assuming he doesn't get re-injured) and upgrading the right tackle spot, that would significantly upgrade our pass protection.

Honestly, if Richardson somehow falls to us...we really can't pass up on him.

Jones will be gone, as will Battle. Charles will be a ?

Way too unrealistic for me. I don't see Adams lasting to our 2b.

I'm guessing you're talking about the '09 draft when he took Tyson Jackson? If so, who would he havve traded down with? It was a VERY weak top of the draft that year. Nobody was trading up with us.

Why would Battle be gone? Can't tell me they won't eat up "what he did" last year, not to mention his contributions to ST's.

Because he's a FA. With all of our needs, Battle could easily be a casualty.

The best way to protect Manning is to have an a running game that takes the pressure off of Manning.

We obviously need to improve the quality and depth of the O-Line, but if you don't put all the pressure of the offense on Manning, make the defense respect your ground attack and keep him out of 2nd and 3rd and long situations, you keep defenses from teeing off.

It's almost like people have forgotten about Charles coming back. Yes, he's coming back from tearing his ACL, but that doesn't mean he's going to come back and be Jones. A OL would help both Manning and Charles. We aren't looking for a 3 down back. We are looking for someone to split time with Charles.

I wasn't talking in any specifics.

I'm fully aware of the fact that Charles is coming back, and I'm fully aware of the type of RB we should be looking for.

I was only discussing my opinion of the best way to take pressure off of Manning.