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whoman69 02-02-2012 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8342594)
New England has no problems doing it.

Nor did McDaniels with Denver.

New England is almost always at the end of the first round dealing with teams that want to move up from the 2nd. Easy to do considering they don't expect players to come in and start for them near the tail end of the first round.

To move down you have to have a player that other teams covet at your spot while not moving down to where the player your team covets would be picked. I hear people yelling trade down all the time.

whoman69 02-02-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8342287)
Even so, taking a G? We don't even really need a G. Just getting Wiegmann out of the middle can hold us for a year. Lilja still has 1 year left on his contract. BRich on the other hand needs to ****ing go, yesterday.

Yeah, Lilja was great last year. A young DeCastro definitely would not be an upgrade.

ToxSocks 02-02-2012 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8343217)
People make too much out of positional value. At the end of the day if you get an excellent player, it was a good pick. How hard did everyone laugh when the Raiders took a kicker in the first. He's won many a game for them.

I agree.

I could give two shits about positional value.

BPA all the way.

Positional value can suck it.

jd1020 02-02-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8343820)
Yeah, Lilja was great last year. A young DeCastro definitely would not be an upgrade.

Missed the point entirely...

Wiegmann and Lilja weren't great but Wiegmann, is hopefully retiring and Hudson is taking over. Now you've got Richardson over there at RT who couldn't block for a high school team. So you are looking at replacing Lilja, who has 1 year left, or Richardson, who's a FA, and you have seemingly equal value at both positions likely on the board and you choose to replace Lilja...

I'm not wanting to draft Trent Richardson in the first but I'd take him all day over DeCastro.

Tribal Warfare 02-02-2012 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8343217)
People make too much out of positional value. At the end of the day if you get an excellent player, it was a good pick. How hard did everyone laugh when the Raiders took a kicker in the first. He's won many a game for them.

He's a dick, alcoholic, and loose cannon, during one season off memory he had a seizure because he took too much Ecstasy at a night club.

O.city 02-02-2012 06:31 PM

I know some aren't big on Richardson and I'm not really high on him myself, but I ask myself, when discussing a potential draft pick, which one brings more to your team?

I think Richardson brings more to the Chiefs than DeCastro.

Think about it this way, if a rb with Richardson skills hits free agency ala Ray Rice or Matt Fotrte and a guard of Decastro's skill set, which one would teams rather pay big money for?

whoman69 02-02-2012 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8343871)
Missed the point entirely...

Wiegmann and Lilja weren't great but Wiegmann, is hopefully retiring and Hudson is taking over. Now you've got Richardson over there at RT who couldn't block for a high school team. So you are looking at replacing Lilja, who has 1 year left, or Richardson, who's a FA, and you have seemingly equal value at both positions likely on the board and you choose to replace Lilja...

I'm not wanting to draft Trent Richardson in the first but I'd take him all day over DeCastro.

If we can make a move to improve the team, make it, whether its for now or one year from now. I think the biggest team need we can draft for as a starter is at RT but the option at #12 is to draft a LT and move them over to right which from what we saw with Gaither isn't always a good move. The top RT is somewhere in the neighborhood of a round 2-3 pick. I think another pick here, though it would be a bit of a reach at #12 is Don'ta Hightower but that I would only do if not resigning Belcher.

jd1020 02-02-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8344382)
If we can make a move to improve the team, make it, whether its for now or one year from now. I think the biggest team need we can draft for as a starter is at RT but the option at #12 is to draft a LT and move them over to right which from what we saw with Gaither isn't always a good move. The top RT is somewhere in the neighborhood of a round 2-3 pick. I think another pick here, though it would be a bit of a reach at #12 is Don'ta Hightower but that I would only do if not resigning Belcher.

Gaither didn't play. That's either because of Haley or Gaither truly did refuse to play RT.

Just to name a few college LT's that were recently drafted and play RT now... Bulaga, Oher, Solder. All I can think of off the top of my head.

whoman69 02-02-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8344472)
Gaither didn't play. That's either because of Haley or Gaither truly did refuse to play RT.

Just to name a few college LT's that were recently drafted and play RT now... Bulaga, Oher, Solder. All I can think of off the top of my head.

Many RTs in the league were tried at LT and failed and moved to LT. You draft high to get an LT and when that doesn't work, move them to the right side. Many were saying we should do that with Albert.

Most reports I saw on Gaither as to why he didn't beat out Richardson was that he couldn't make the transition. You can't assume they will always be able to make that transition.

SAUTO 02-02-2012 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8344255)
I know some aren't big on Richardson and I'm not really high on him myself, but I ask myself, when discussing a potential draft pick, which one brings more to your team?

I think Richardson brings more to the Chiefs than DeCastro.

Think about it this way, if a rb with Richardson skills hits free agency ala Ray Rice or Matt Fotrte and a guard of Decastro's skill set, which one would teams rather pay big money for?

some guards have broken the bank lately, iirc steve hutchinson was one of the first.
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Nightfyre 02-02-2012 08:53 PM

I would say top 5 guards get more than top 5 RBs if I had to guess.

SAUTO 02-02-2012 08:59 PM

When was the last blockbuster fa rb signed? I mean by another team.
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Chiefnj2 02-02-2012 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8344546)
Many RTs in the league were tried at LT and failed and moved to LT. You draft high to get an LT and when that doesn't work, move them to the right side. Many were saying we should do that with Albert.

Most reports I saw on Gaither as to why he didn't beat out Richardson was that he couldn't make the transition. You can't assume they will always be able to make that transition.

I'm not sure those reports about not being able to make the transition are accurate. He played half of his college snaps at RT.

Bewbies 02-02-2012 10:52 PM

We have a good LT and shit at QB. Drafting to replace a good player trying to cover up the shit is dumb.

The fantasy of drafting a "franchise" LT around here is reeruned.

aturnis 02-03-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 8344934)
We have a good LT and shit at QB. Drafting to replace a good player trying to cover up the shit is dumb.

The fantasy of drafting a "franchise" LT around here is reeruned.

Has anyone interested last week or even month suggested this?

The OT picks you see in the first round are taken to play RT. This last season buys Albert time to continue to grow at LT. Even with the fans.


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