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Direckshun 02-06-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Charming? (Post 8354024)
Direckshun, why do all your mocks assume that we won't re-sign Carr? Just for once, to play devil's advocate, couldn't you make a mock that assumed we DO sign Brandon Carr?

Because it's harder. I enjoy the challenge, however slight.

Also, I am not optimistic that we do resign him.

Direckshun 02-06-2012 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8354007)
I hate that in this scenario we have to use our 1st on a CB and still downgrading at that spot. (because there's no way he comes in at Brandon's level)

Would be ultimate fair on the GM's part that we get outbid when we're 30 mil below the cap.

Unacceptable.

To be fair, in this scenario, there is no better value.

Everything else is either a major reach or a right tackle, guard, or running back.

aturnis 02-06-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8354192)
To be fair, in this scenario, there is no better value.

Everything else is either a major reach or a right tackle, guard, or running back.

Dre Kirkpatrick is a late 1st early 2nd round CB. He's not crazy good, and he got caught pokin' da smot.

aturnis 02-06-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8354179)
Because it's harder. I enjoy the challenge, however slight.

Also, I am not optimistic that we do resign him.

I am. There's money enough for him. His friends are here. Wants to be here. Also, as a professional, KC is all he knows.

This is the advantage of building a team through the draft. The young influential players are likely to build strong relationships with their other young teammates, and also, the known is better than the unknown. Carr knows he can succeed here for sure. Leaving is Brandon Carr's last option if the Chiefs don't want him, or aren't willing to give him fair money. Notice I didn't say outstanding, Carr will come for fair, which is in Flowers ballpark. Carr may take a bit less to stay though, given his inclination to stay.

Titty Meat 02-06-2012 06:58 PM

This mock sucks.

Direckshun 02-06-2012 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8354216)
Dre Kirkpatrick is a late 1st early 2nd round CB. He's not crazy good, and he got caught pokin' da smot.

I really don't agree. He's got great size, near-elite speed, and good ballskills.

The pot thing doesn't scare me off any more than it did with Justin Houston.

Direckshun 02-06-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8354224)
I am. There's money enough for him. His friends are here. Wants to be here. Also, as a professional, KC is all he knows.

This is the advantage of building a team through the draft. The young influential players are likely to build strong relationships with their other young teammates, and also, the known is better than the unknown. Carr knows he can succeed here for sure. Leaving is Brandon Carr's last option if the Chiefs don't want him, or aren't willing to give him fair money. Notice I didn't say outstanding, Carr will come for fair, which is in Flowers ballpark. Carr may take a bit less to stay though, given his inclination to stay.

Great, so we'll be paying our starting corners $95 million instead of $100 million.

It just doesn't sound like a Pioli deal.

Coogs 02-06-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8354192)
To be fair, in this scenario, there is no better value.

Everything else is either a major reach or a right tackle, guard, or running back.

This scenario is our worst possible thing that could happen IMO. We spend our 1st round draft pick to make out team exactly the same as it was before with Carr. So in a sense, we just forfeit our 1st round pick. :shake:

RealSNR 02-06-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8354386)
I really don't agree. He's got great size, near-elite speed, and good ballskills.

The pot thing doesn't scare me off any more than it did with Justin Houston.

Hell, I'll take this guy in the 3rd round :)

Direckshun 02-06-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8354398)
This scenario is our worst possible thing that could happen IMO. We spend our 1st round draft pick to make out team exactly the same as it was before with Carr. So in a sense, we just forfeit our 1st round pick. :shake:

While I understand what you're saying, Kirkpatrick projects to essentially be Brandon Carr, for at least $30-35 million cheaper.

Money that could be, ostensibly, spent on something awesome like a potential franchise nose or quarterback.

Direckshun 02-06-2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Charming? (Post 8354422)
Hell, I'll take this guy in the 3rd round :)

AMEN.

Coogs 02-06-2012 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8354436)
While I understand what you're saying, Kirkpatrick projects to essentially be Brandon Carr, for at least $30-35 million cheaper.

Not per year. And we already have 30-35 million to play with.

htismaqe 02-06-2012 09:54 PM

Gettis in the 7th is precisely what this team needs to be doing with the OL in the draft.

Gettis is another high floor/low ceiling guy - certainly not as good as Marshall Yanda but in that mold.

Not sure he's center material though.

gonefishin53 02-06-2012 11:35 PM

Direckshun:

Rashard Hall just had knee surgery and will be returning to Clemson for the 2012 season.

http://www.clemsontigers.com/sports/...012612aab.html

Direckshun 02-06-2012 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gonefishin53 (Post 8355196)
Direckshun:

Rashard Hall just had knee surgery and will be returning to Clemson for the 2012 season.

http://www.clemsontigers.com/sports/...012612aab.html

Yeah, that was brought to my attention earlier in the thread. Thanks.

The spirit of the selection still counts, I suppose.


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