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whoman69 03-31-2012 11:20 AM

IMO those against this pick because we have Belcher are ignoring the fact that Belcher was on the field for more than 200 passing plays and he was worthless in those packages. Good run stopper, but Kuechly is a big upgrade in coverage.

BigChiefFan 03-31-2012 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 8506747)
IMO those against this pick because we have Belcher are ignoring the fact that Belcher was on the field for more than 200 passing plays and he was worthless in those packages. Good run stopper, but Kuechly is a big upgrade in coverage.

I really like Belcher, but many are forgetting how we were constantly torched by TEs and Belcher played a part in that. Having an inside LBer who can cover, would improve our defense by leaps and bounds. I still prefer the NT, but there is no denying Kuechley would improve our pass coverage.


I don't think there's another ILber in the draft that can cover like Kuechly can, so I'd like to think he's at the top of our draft board and I think we'll give strong consideration to drafting him, if he should be there at 11.

KCwolf 04-04-2012 07:43 PM

This is who the Chiefs will be selecting come draft day.

Hoover 04-04-2012 07:57 PM

I would be excited if we selected him at 11.

For those who want to draft a playmaker, this is the pick.

Direckshun 04-04-2012 08:00 PM

Kuechly simply never reads a play wrong. Nobody diagnoses it faster on the field.

HolmeZz 04-04-2012 08:09 PM

Speaking as a Notre Dame fan, the guy was a pain in the ass to play against. I know it's almost cliche at this point, but it really did feel like he was in the middle of every play.

ChiefMojo 04-04-2012 08:12 PM

Charlie Casserly on Path to the Draft (NFLN) believes Kuechly may be the safest pick in the draft. With that said, they also thought the likes of Hightower and Brockers are safe picks also.

beach tribe 04-04-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 8493772)
Yep. And running the 3-4, I don't know if we can swing having a 215 or 225 ILB.

Yes I know we have Belcher who is on the lighter side. But I think Kuechly would be a nice upgrade.

I'm pretty sure Belcher is bigger than his listed weight. If not he sure looks/plays as if it is.

milkman 04-04-2012 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 8506809)
I really like Belcher, but many are forgetting how we were constantly torched by TEs and Belcher played a part in that. Having an inside LBer who can cover, would improve our defense by leaps and bounds. I still prefer the NT, but there is no denying Kuechley would improve our pass coverage.


I don't think there's another ILber in the draft that can cover like Kuechly can, so I'd like to think he's at the top of our draft board and I think we'll give strong consideration to drafting him, if he should be there at 11.

You guys are so full of shit.

Constantly torched?

With Belcher on the field for 200+ passingplays last season, only 3 TEs had more than 70 yards in receiving in a game, Gronkowski, Gates, and Scott Chandler, and only one had more than 5 receptions (Chandler).

You guys, to retiterate, are full of shit.

Direckshun 04-04-2012 08:29 PM

Belcher is the mystery puzzle piece here.

If we do draft Kuechly, there is no reason for Belcher to be on the roster...

So hard to figure out what the Chiefs will do this year.

Where do you fall, milkman? Who's your pick at the #11 spot?

Direckshun 04-04-2012 08:30 PM

By the way, Belcher is fine and everything, but Kuechly has elite cover skills for a linebacker.

This was a guy who kept up with Streeter when BC played Miami. The guy can cover.

RealSNR 04-04-2012 08:39 PM

If we're not keeping Belcher and drafting Kuechly, then I'm actually not so sure we'd need to worry THAT much about ILB depth.

Demorrio's gone, (not that that's a bad thing) you can't trust Siler yet until you've at least seen him in OTAs, and Cory Greenwood is Cory Greenwood.

Is this a case where the Chiefs would try to take a guy from the logjam at OLB and move him inside? Between Andy Studebaker, Cam Sheffield, and Gabe Miller, they all seem to have a good nose for the ball. I'm thinking that actually might be our best option, rather than trusting a late round/rookie free agent with that last depth spot.

That is, of course, assuming some guy like Caleb Campbell on the roster doesn't come out of nowhere and shock the world with his play.

milkman 04-04-2012 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8518726)
Belcher is the mystery puzzle piece here.

If we do draft Kuechly, there is no reason for Belcher to be on the roster...

So hard to figure out what the Chiefs will do this year.

Where do you fall, milkman? Who's your pick at the #11 spot?

I'll take Dre Kirpatrick, Mark Barron, or Melvin Ingram before any of the other guys discussed.

And yes, I'm aware of the arm length thing, but I would not take Ingram simply for pass rushing.

I take him because of his versatility.

He can do the same things for this defense that Mike Vrabel did for the Patriots in his prime.

KCwolf 04-04-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8518715)
You guys are so full of shit.

Constantly torched?

With Belcher on the field for 200+ passingplays last season, only 3 TEs had more than 70 yards in receiving in a game, Gronkowski, Gates, and Scott Chandler, and only one had more than 5 receptions (Chandler).

You guys, to retiterate, are full of shit.

Well..... Apparently Luke isn't the guy. So....how would you propose we draft?

milkman 04-04-2012 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8518730)
By the way, Belcher is fine and everything, but Kuechly has elite cover skills for a linebacker.

This was a guy who kept up with Streeter when BC played Miami. The guy can cover.

There isn't a LB in this league that can cover the elite TEs, and Kuechly is not going to come in and be that guy.

Taking a LB for his cover skills is absolute moronacy at the top of the draft.


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