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DeezNutz 04-19-2012 01:31 PM
Accept value when it falls in your lap, and this will lead to a strong roster long-term.

DJ's left nut 04-19-2012 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 8553756)
Accept value when it falls in your lap, and this will lead to a strong roster long-term.
Exactly.

Not every high value pick is going to be at a position of extreme immediate need. But over the long-term, you'll be amazed at what your needs end up being.

If Perry or Konz have fallen to the 2nd, sure - go with those guys. Those are also pretty good value picks that fit the needs better. But if there's nobody that presents a strong value pick and Adams is available for you, passing on him because you have Albert w/ 1 year left on his deal and Winston, who rumors suggest was let go by Houston because of health concerns - well that's just dumb.

DeezNutz 04-19-2012 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553764)
Exactly.

Not every high value pick is going to be at a position of extreme immediate need. But over the long-term, you'll be amazed at what your needs end up being.

If Perry or Konz have fallen to the 2nd, sure - go with those guys. Those are also pretty good value picks that fit the needs better. But if there's nobody that presents a strong value pick and Adams is available for you, passing on him because you have Albert w/ 1 year left on his deal and Winston, who rumors suggest was let go by Houston because of health concerns - well that's just dumb.
When I was reading through the thread, my first thought was about the '05 draft and Rodgers. At the time, many might have said the same thing: "We don't need a QB now! LB is a much bigger concern!!"

Now, we have largely wised up (for the most part) about QBs, but the guiding principle in selecting Adams would be the same. Take the damn gift and run like hell.

Frosty 04-19-2012 01:47 PM
We could take Adams and move Albert to guard!




*runs and hides* :evil:

saphojunkie 04-19-2012 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553752)
1. He's not a need until he is; can we count on Winston and Albert staying healthy all year? How do you figure that this team doesn't desperately need another tackle - Steve Maneri and David Mimms appear to be our backups right now. And what happens if Albert leaves? Adams is absolutely capable of playing LT.

2. Says who? Adams' effort is generally regarded as adequate, though not his greatest strength. He really stepped up last season in that department.

3. Again - says who? This isn't a good tackle crop. Anyone that would be available that is 'more dependable' has a substantially lower ceiling in this draft.

Adams would be a very good pick in the 2nd round for us, IMO. He provides depth where we desperately need it and could be a very good developmental player for us.
We have an IMMEDIATE need at center. As in...we don't have one on the roster. We need to pick up a center or a guard and move hudson before we start filling backup roles with huge red-flag guys.

Mr. Laz 04-19-2012 03:41 PM
a backup/swing tackle is a definite need

Is Mims ready?

need somebody this year and we need to start developing them all the time so we don't run into problems again.

beach tribe 04-20-2012 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553378)
I'd take him with a 2nd if he fell in a heartbeat.
Maybe he'll pull a J. Houston, and Pioli will snag him.

Dmello12 04-20-2012 12:07 AM
wonder what Adams is doing on this special holiday???

beach tribe 04-20-2012 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8553801)
We could take Adams and move Albert to guard!




*runs and hides* :evil:
Hell yeah. Then we could sign Albert to G money instead of T money.

BryanBusby 04-20-2012 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dmello12 (Post 8554847)
wonder what Adams is doing on this special holiday???
LMAO

Normally this wouldn't be a big deal, but there's been a lot of questions on Mike Adams. He really took a big hit (hurr) on his stock.

Chief2Chief 04-20-2012 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8553752)
1. He's not a need until he is; can we count on Winston and Albert staying healthy all year? How do you figure that this team doesn't desperately need another tackle - Steve Maneri and David Mimms appear to be our backups right now. And what happens if Albert leaves? Adams is absolutely capable of playing LT.

2. Says who? Adams' effort is generally regarded as adequate, though not his greatest strength. He really stepped up last season in that department.

3. Again - says who? This isn't a good tackle crop. Anyone that would be available that is 'more dependable' has a substantially lower ceiling in this draft.

Adams would be a very good pick in the 2nd round for us, IMO. He provides depth where we desperately need it and could be a very good developmental player for us.
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Chief2Chief 04-20-2012 05:49 PM
Dude, why are you even replying as it obvious you know nothing about the Chiefs or the OL. Maneri was moved to TE what...2 months ago. Mims is spelled with like, Mims and he probably be the best lineman in camp this fall. Mims was a steal for the Chiefs.
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Chief2Chief 04-20-2012 05:50 PM
David Mims has all the tools to be great. And appears to be a great kid from a good family. Don't be surprised to see David Mims push Albert in camp. Seriously. Go Chiefs
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Frosty 04-20-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 8554848)
Hell yeah. Then we could sign Albert to G money instead of T money.
This is either sarcasm fail on your part or on mine. Not sure which.


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