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Frosty 04-27-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8573572)
Trade down would have been optimal, obviously. I would have been curious to see those two offers Pioli got from other teams.

Since they were worried about losing Poe if they traded back, I'm guessing that it was behind the Eagles and probably the Chargers, so around 19 or 20. At that point, they could have taken Jones, Mercilus, Hightower or DeCastro and still picked up Ta'amu or Chapman with the new picks or original 2nd.

HoneyBadger 04-27-2012 02:14 PM

I'm surprised they didn't ask if they could just cash the pick in.

O.city 04-27-2012 02:15 PM

I wouldn't have minded Mercilus or Ingram, but that also brings up what some have said around here the last month or so.



If you take one of those guys, where do you play them? Someone has to come off the field for that to happen.

The Franchise 04-27-2012 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8573611)
I wouldn't have minded Mercilus or Ingram, but that also brings up what some have said around here the last month or so.



If you take one of those guys, where do you play them? Someone has to come off the field for that to happen.

Ingram is a versatile player. He can play ILB, OLB, DT/DE in a nickle package. You act like Houston and Hali are out there for every ****ing defensive snap that we have.

Chiefnj2 04-27-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8573585)
Cox would have to make the same adjustment as Glenn Dorsey did. Waste of a talent.

And Poe isn't making the same adjustment?

keg in kc 04-27-2012 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8573572)
Nobody except Tannehill was going to make me exactly giddy.

This won't be a popular comment, but I see Tannehill as the QB equivalent of Poe. I think I'd have felt exactly the same way had he been picked at 11. Wouldn't have been excited, wouldn't have been disappointed, it would have amounted to taking a big gamble on a major position of need, that's either going to boom gloriously or bust biblically, and I got no idea which way it's going to go.

suds79 04-27-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8573621)
And Poe isn't making the same adjustment?

I think the point is you can't compare Cox to Poe. Their body types are so far apart.

Cox doesn't have the necessary size to play the NT position.

So again we're comparing the DE spot vs NT.

O.city 04-27-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8573615)
Ingram is a versatile player. He can play ILB, OLB, DT/DE in a nickle package. You act like Houston and Hali are out there for every ****ing defensive snap that we have.

I do like what Ingram would have brought versatility wise, but I don't think he's going to be able to play with his hand in the dirt.


I think alot of the reasoning for Poe, was that he could play everydown. Whether that be true or not.

O.city 04-27-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8573621)
And Poe isn't making the same adjustment?

What?


Poe is playing NT and the DT in sub stuff.

ChiefsCountry 04-27-2012 02:27 PM

I would have took Dont'a Hightower.

O.city 04-27-2012 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8573667)
I would have took Dont'a Hightower.

I was high on him to begin with.



But after watching film and reading about him, I don't think he would have been much of an upgrade over Belcher.

saphojunkie 04-27-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8573667)
I would have took Dont'a Hightower.

Hightower is a great pick, but we would be coming back in round two targeting a nose tackle.

They brought Chapman in, and clearly didn't feel like he was going to cut it. If we can get Upshaw in round 2, I'm loving the Poe pick. Just absolutely beefing up our run defense.

CrazyPhuD 04-27-2012 02:31 PM

At first I was meh about the pick, but the more I read about the kid and his background the more I liked him. High character guy(and team captain lol!). It's a gamble sure, but one could argue his lack of game performance was partially a result of a lack of coaching. You can't teach talent, but you can teach technique. The question is, are they willing to learn and work their asses off. I think this kid might be.

The pick that would have really made me scream was Decastro. Sorry, I just don't believe in taking a guard that early. In the 20s sure(which is where he went), but almost top 10? No way....

I would have liked a tradeback but didn't think it was very likely without a marquee player left.

The Dawg 04-27-2012 02:32 PM

WTF. Why did everyone want Hightower?

petegz28 04-27-2012 02:34 PM

I think given the circumstances this was the year to take a higher risk on a player at a position we are really desperately thin at talent. There wasn't a "sure thing" sitting there at NT and Cox, imo, is undersized for what we run. All things considered, assuming there were no viable trades that is, I can't fault the pick given where our off-season signings have put us.

DeCastro would have been a good pick had we needed a starter at G but we don't so take a flyer on a guy who has a great upside and if he busts you can at least look back and say there wasn't too much else there at the time.


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