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Frosty 04-27-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8576646)
Why are you saying this? Resigned Hali, Charles, DJ and Flowers. Carr wanted to leave. Bowe talk is rumors.

I was referring to this in the OP:

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I think he is a nice hedge against Albert leaving in a year.
I keep seeing people say the Chiefs should draft so and so so they don't have to re-sign Carr/Bowe/Dorsey/Albert etc (I know in some cases, like Carr, you have no choice). I just think it's dumb to let good players walk and then burn a high pick to replace them.

In this case, I have no idea if Pioli took him for that reason or just because he felt he was BPA.

buddha 04-27-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 8576651)
I was referring to this in the OP:



I keep seeing people say the Chiefs should draft so and so so they don't have to re-sign Carr/Bowe/Dorsey/Albert etc (I know in some cases, like Carr, you have no choice). I just think it's dumb to let good players walk and then burn a high pick to replace them.

In this case, I have no idea if Pioli took him for that reason or just because he felt he was BPA.

Frosty, all most people have done on CP for weeks is bitch about our lack of a quality QB, right? In the process, we have seen countless posts about how meaningless our offensive line is (strangely, the Chiefs apparently disagree).

Free agency means guys can sign anywhere they want to sign, right? You seem to complain no matter what the circumstance, so answer this...what would you have the Chiefs do? Not have somebody ready to take over if Albert leaves? Is that wise in your opinion? What is Albert gets hurt? We have NOTHING behind him...all o-line depth was gone prior to today.

You don't just let good players walk, but you can't stick your head in the sand and assume that any team will be able to keep all of their free agents.

I don't want to resign Dorsey, for instance. He doesn't make sense for this defense and he costs way too much for what he produces. Carr was a loss, but hopefully not one we can't replace.

BTW, compensatory picks are a really good thing. Carr is going to play a lot in Dallas. That means KC will get a high draft pick from the NFL because Carr left KC with no compensation being given in return.

mdchiefsfan 04-28-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 8576646)
Why are you saying this? Resigned Hali, Charles, DJ and Flowers. Carr wanted to leave. Bowe talk is rumors.

We let one player walk, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END!!

buddha 04-28-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan (Post 8576678)
We let one player walk, IT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE END!!

Well said. Let's see how Carr responds when he has to be the #1 CB. Flowers carried the load last year and did it well. Carr may develop into something special, but he's replaceable.

mdchiefsfan 04-28-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8576682)
Well said. Let's see how Carr responds when he has to be the #1 CB. Flowers carried the load last year and did it well. Carr may develop into something special, but he's replaceable.

With Claiborne there I wonder if he will be the #1 for long. They paid him (Carr) for it but made up for that by drafting the best corner available; pisses me off.

buddha 04-28-2012 12:14 AM

No worries mdchiefsfan. Dallas needed two CBs in reality. They should be set if Mo Claiborne is as good as expected. I would fight to keep Flowers in town...Carr, a nice player, but he isn't great.

keg in kc 04-28-2012 12:14 AM

Stephenson's story is pretty cool. I didn't realize that he was a local kid and a life-long fan of the team. I didn't even know the NFL did local pro days (neat little video on the Chiefs website about it). We get stuck in all that draft hubub, who should go where, we should've taken player x, y and z instead, and sometimes miss the neat sidebar stuff.

mdchiefsfan 04-28-2012 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by buddha (Post 8576695)
No worries mdchiefsfan. Dallas needed two CBs in reality. They should be set if Mo Claiborne is as good as expected. I would fight to keep Flowers in town...Carr, a nice player, but he isn't great.

Yea I agree, call me spiteful but I wanted to see Carr swamped with his new responsibilities and this is a way out for him.

aturnis 04-28-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8576696)
Stephenson's story is pretty cool. I didn't realize that he was a local kid and a life-long fan of the team. I didn't even know the NFL did local pro days (neat little video on the Chiefs website about it). We get stuck in all that draft hubub, who should go where, we should've taken player x, y and z instead, and sometimes miss the neat sidebar stuff.

I don't think all teams do the local pro days. I believe it's new to the Chiefs since Pioli's been here...

mdchiefsfan 04-28-2012 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8576696)
Stephenson's story is pretty cool. I didn't realize that he was a local kid and a life-long fan of the team. I didn't even know the NFL did local pro days (neat little video on the Chiefs website about it). We get stuck in all that draft hubub, who should go where, we should've taken player x, y and z instead, and sometimes miss the neat sidebar stuff.

That's awesome. I didn't know that thanks for the info

ChiefsCountry 04-28-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8576704)
I don't think all teams do the local pro days. I believe it's new to the Chiefs since Pioli's been here...

Chiefs had them under Peterson.

Tribal Warfare 04-28-2012 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8576624)
Poe is our future five tech DE after they let Dorsey walk/he walks after the 2012 season. I don't see him at the nose.

Jackson/Powe/Poe

And I do think that Stephenson has the potential to be a starting LT, especially in this system. A pretty superb fit.

Crennel himself said he's playing NT/Under Tackle in sub formations. Bailey will be the main man after next year at DE.

keg in kc 04-28-2012 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 8576704)
I don't think all teams do the local pro days. I believe it's new to the Chiefs since Pioli's been here...

I don't know, tonight's the first time I heard about them. Judging by the video, teams are allowed to invite any players from within 40 miles of the metropolitan area where the team resides. They were kind of joking how different it is for some teams, mentioning Miami and how they could bring in every Hurricane player if they want, whereas the Chiefs have to scour local kids (regardless of the college they attended) as well as players at local universities, which here means small schools. KU and K-State are too far away.

I don't know a whole lot about it though, just what I could gather from the video. Neat idea, in any case, reminds me of the scouting camps local minor league baseball teams ran back when I still played.

Oregon chief 04-28-2012 12:28 AM

That's all nice but does he have long arms?

Direckshun 04-28-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Oregon chief (Post 8576718)
That's all nice but does he have long arms?

Very.

35".


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