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jspchief 04-29-2012 07:29 AM

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Now, with most of the heavy lifting complete as the rebuilding begins its fourth year, the team no longer required perfection from its top decision-makers.
:spock:

TEX 04-29-2012 07:34 AM

Still NEED A QB -that is why Piole FAILS. It's THE # 1 issue holding the Chiefs back.

boogblaster 04-29-2012 08:28 AM

QB needed .. I'd really like to see the kid get alot of pre-season snaps ... he's had a year to study the play-book .. I really think if given a chance his arm could be a real weapon for us .. As far as the draft we didn't do too bad .. Plus we signed afew FA and we'll pick up afew un-drafted youngsters ...

OnTheWarpath15 04-29-2012 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8580247)
I don't agree with the whole thought process.

We are solid at most starting positions, but if one goes down, and he is replaced by a developmental project, then that position is ****ed.

We are at the point where depth should be the focus of many of the picks, but we should be focusing on guys that are ready to compete now.

Exactly.

You know how you get quality depth?

By drafting the best player available.

Worst case scenario is that you've just drafted quality depth.

Best case is that one of your starting 22 became a backup.

FloridaMan88 04-29-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8580247)
I don't agree with the whole thought process.

We are solid at most starting positions, but if one goes down, and he is replaced by a developmental project, then that position is ****ed.

We are at the point where depth should be the focus of many of the picks, but we should be focusing on guys that are ready to compete now.

Wow what a shock, you are spewing Fat Scott's talking points that the Chiefs don't have any immediate needs to fill on the roster.

Teams like the NY Giants don't have immediate needs and can afford to draft strictly for depth in the early parts ot he draft.

Teams like the Chiefs who are coming off a 7-9 season and set the franchise record for fewest points scored per game don't have that luxury.

InChiefsHeaven 04-29-2012 08:50 AM

No matter what, last year's injuries will be blamed for the ineptness of the offense, not the personel we have. THat's just how they are going to look at it. Charles, Moeaki, later Cassell's injuries give the FO room to say that once they all come back we'll be in 2010 playoff shape. Maybe, maybe not, but this is the LAST year for Cassell to suck. It just has to be.

DOESN'T IT??

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 09:11 AM

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“We’re certainly in a different place than where we were,” Pioli said.
This ARROGANT COCKBITE.

Thinks he's accomplished SO MUCH in three years.

Rasputin 04-29-2012 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580425)
This ARROGANT COCKBITE.

Thinks he's accomplished SO MUCH in three years.

Am betting Pioli is banking off of the 2010 season for his accomplishment and the return of JC, EB & TM. That's where he thinks in his mind even with POS Matt Cassel we can be a continder. We didn't have depth along the O-line nore manny positions, but have had chore players that went down.

One of the biggest disapointments I've had is "Tank" Tyler, had he been able to be effective and stay with the team at DT our defense would have been killer. He had all the qualities exept staying awake and you can't sleep at the wheel driving a car lol.

Marcellus 04-29-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580425)
This ARROGANT COCKBITE.

Thinks he's accomplished SO MUCH in three years.

You really have an innate ability to read way too much into anything and blow it up into an epic drama queen episode.

He thinks he has accomplished so much? You get that from that quote?

The team he took over sucked ass but had some talent on board. I know we have Matt Cassel, we all know it, but even as your dumb ****ing ass has stated over and over, we are only a QB away from having a contender.

So are we not in a different spot than where we were?

whoman69 04-29-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 8580391)
No matter what, last year's injuries will be blamed for the ineptness of the offense, not the personel we have. THat's just how they are going to look at it. Charles, Moeaki, later Cassell's injuries give the FO room to say that once they all come back we'll be in 2010 playoff shape. Maybe, maybe not, but this is the LAST year for Cassell to suck. It just has to be.

DOESN'T IT??

No/Scott Pioli

philfree 04-29-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8580247)
I don't agree with the whole thought process.

We are solid at most starting positions, but if one goes down, and he is replaced by a developmental project, then that position is ****ed.

We are at the point where depth should be the focus of many of the picks, but we should be focusing on guys that are ready to compete now.

I agree but I think we got some players who will be ready to compete and contribute right away.

They'll work hard to have Poe starting at NT by the start of the season and Davis doesn't have to start but he'll compete with Lilja to be the starter. He wil be a starter one day soon.

Menzie could come in and start just like Arenas did but again he doesn't have too and he'll get playing time in subs and STs.

Wylie will immediately compete to be the return man.
Our RBs are still thin so Gray will have a good chance to get some carries. He could end up a steady in the rotation if he does well.


We drafted for depth but we didn't just draft a bunch of backups.

mcaj22 04-29-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8580247)
I don't agree with the whole thought process.

We are solid at most starting positions, but if one goes down, and he is replaced by a developmental project, then that position is ****ed.

We are at the point where depth should be the focus of many of the picks, but we should be focusing on guys that are ready to compete now.



who is a developmental project? you do realize Jeff Allen is a projected STARTING NFL talent on on much shittier teams he would be a DAY 1 starter?

here he is 2nd string swing blocker emergency case scenario. OR if he is that good as projected, he comes into camp, shits on people and they HAVE to start him. He is not a project.

the other lineman is a little more of a project, but again Jeff Allen is ahead of him. So for 6th and 7th lineman it's not bad.

As for the fast turd WR or Cyrus Gray, those guys are literally going to compete just to make the team better, it would take 2-3 injuries for them to get significant playing time. Gray and Wylie's skillsets could push McCluster to inactive duties on Sunday

and Menzie is the best safety depth we've seen in two years from day 1. He's better than Sabby and McGraw before even stepping onto the field.

O.city 04-29-2012 11:15 AM

Menzie and Thorpe are going to press our backup safeties. I love the thorpe signing.

mcaj22 04-29-2012 11:18 AM

you cant knock the safety depth this year compared to last.

at least it's a bunch of young players, who are faster and have potential. I'd rather that than then shitty veterans like Sabby and McGraw who are slow, take bad angles and have hit their ceiling years ago and are on the downside.

BossChief 04-29-2012 11:32 AM

This team is gonna be really exciting to watch once Stanzi takes over as it's starting quarterback.

That fifth round pick is gonna make Pioli look like a genius.


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