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Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 05:24 PM

Did you own a pocket protector?

Dave Lane 04-29-2012 05:27 PM

Hey jaz as an idea can you put down the draft picks and the rankings just for the AFC West teams? It would be interesting to see how it do hell Denver got to a -271

Bowser 04-29-2012 05:41 PM

We did NOT have a better draft than the Buccaneers.

Otter 04-29-2012 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 8581499)
that means absolutely nothing

Welcome to statistics 101

patteeu 04-29-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8581702)
You're right.

I shouldn't be calling him out.

I should be asking him to do the same thing with Mike Mayock's rankings.

And then Todd McShay's.

And then Mel Kiper's.

And then Russ Lande's.

And then Scott Wright's.

And then, see what we learn.

Or you could do that.

Chiefaholic 04-29-2012 06:13 PM

If I've learned anything at all from reading Chiefsplanet over the years, it's take the general consensus of all the "draft experts" here and expect the opposite. Therefore, this draft class will be the core that play major roles in helping our future franchise QB take this team to the Superbowl.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8581836)
If I've learned anything at all from reading Chiefsplanet over the years, it's take the general consensus of all the "draft experts" here and expect the opposite.

Don't be stupid.

The 2009 draft was vilified around here, and it sucked a big one. The 2011 draft was praised, as was 08.

Drafturbators 4lyfe.

Chiefaholic 04-29-2012 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8581843)
Don't be stupid.

The 2009 draft was vilified around here, and it sucked a big one. The 2011 draft was praised, as was 08.

Drafturbators 4lyfe.

The only thing you bring to the board are incredible video's and lots of drama. You enjoy being in the spotlight, thus you tend to go way overboard with your comments to draw attention to yourself.

Most of the "gurus" would have traded away every damn good player we have. I'll take Pioli's draft views over yours any day of the week and expecially Sundays.

CrazyHorse 04-29-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefaholic (Post 8581836)
If I've learned anything at all from reading Chiefsplanet over the years, it's take the general consensus of all the "draft experts" here and expect the opposite. Therefore, this draft class will be the core that play major roles in helping our future franchise QB take this team to the Superbowl.

I couldnt agree more. Whats more interesting is that they forget how badly they missed on thier players in previous drafts. Then come back the following season thinking everyone has fogotten how big an asshole they are.

Whats funny is they want to be taken seriously.

patteeu 04-29-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 8581918)
I couldnt agree more. Whats more interesting is that they forget how badly they missed on thier players in previous drafts. Then come back the following season thinking everyone has fogotten how big an asshole they are.

Whats funny is they want to be taken seriously.

Yeah, there's a deficit of shame around here when it comes to player evaluations sometimes.

milkman 04-29-2012 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8582008)
Yeah, there's a deficit of shame around here when it comes to player evaluations sometimes.

That's bull.

There are a couple of people that are the way you describe them, but most of us own up to our mistakes.

I've started a couple of threads specifically to own up to mine, and have talked about others along the way.

patteeu 04-29-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8582026)
That's bull.

There are a couple of people that are the way you describe them, but most of us own up to our mistakes.

I've started a couple of threads specifically to own up to mine, and have talked about others along the way.

No one here, including you, is good enough at evaluating talent to justify the level of venomous animosity spewed by some toward those with whom they disagree. Admitting you were wrong here and there, after the fact, doesn't quite cut it. You're not necessarily the worst offender, but it's a widespread phenomenon here and most of us are guilty to one degree or another.

milkman 04-29-2012 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 8582118)
No one here, including you, is good enough at evaluating talent to justify the level of venomous animosity spewed by some toward those with whom they disagree. Admitting you were wrong here and there, after the fact, doesn't quite cut it. You're not necessarily the worst offender, but it's a widespread phenomenon here and most of us are guilty to one degree or another.

That's just a purty way of saying, trust the staff, and leave your opinions at the door.

There's got to be Stepford Chief forum somewhere that would suit you just fine.

patteeu 04-29-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8582145)
That's just a purty way of saying, trust the staff, and leave your opinions at the door.

There's got to be Stepford Chief forum somewhere that would suit you just fine.

Are you telling me that you can't even conceive of a way to disagree without being an asshole, because that's what it sounds like you're saying.

jAZ 04-29-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8581702)
You're right.

I shouldn't be calling him out.

I should be asking him to do the same thing with Mike Mayock's rankings.

And then Todd McShay's.

And then Mel Kiper's.

And then Russ Lande's.

And then Scott Wright's.

And then, see what we learn.

I need a list of all drafted players with a grade (1-100 or some scale) to do it with other's grades.

This is from the ESPN.com NFL page. Same general method.

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