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L.A. Chieffan 04-30-2012 11:39 AM

Haha, people are in for a rude awakening

Mr. Laz 04-30-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8582854)
Haha, people are in for a rude awakening

and you will be so happy





can't wait for LA to get a team

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8582845)
A 7-9 team that got absolutely annihilated in the playoffs of it's 'good' season of the last 1/2 decade just treated the draft like they were Super Bowl winners that just needed to add some depth and build for the future.

28 seems extreme, but 20 wouldn't.

He's right - the powers that be have wildly overestimated the overall talent of this team. The squad is not appreciably better than the 2010 squad that needed an incredibly soft schedule to go 10-6 and get trucked at home in round 1.

This team has 11-5 and 1 and done as its absolute ceiling and a 5-11 floor. It's stuck in that 12-22 range where it's really just subject to blind luck and the whims of the schedule on any given season.

And Pioli showed absolutely no urgency or aggression in this draft at all. It really does suggest a confidence that I just do not understand.

And so have the fans.

Good post, DJ.

L.A. Chieffan 04-30-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8582856)
and you will be so happy





can't wait for LA to get a team

Hell yeah, when we start 6-0 and Cassel looks to be headed for another pro-bowl idiot fake fans like you will be begging for redemption.

Just Passin' By 04-30-2012 11:43 AM

Terrible job by Silver, but that's nothing new for him.

Mr. Arrowhead 04-30-2012 11:45 AM

Minus the QB, the chiefs are in the top 5 in terms of overall talent

OnTheWarpath15 04-30-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 8582863)
Minus the QB, the chiefs are in the top 5 in terms of overall talent

ROFL

Holy shit.

Direckshun 04-30-2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582848)
Yep.

And until they prove otherwise, I don't think his ranking is that far off.

You're wrong.

A team that went 7-9 against a HARD schedule while missing its best players on offense and defense, a key contributor on offense, and playing backup QBs for almost half the season?

That's not bottom-third talent. That's, at the very least, mid-third talent. I'd put us towards the top of the mid third.

Garcia Bronco 04-30-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582865)
You're wrong.

A team that went 7-9 against a HARD schedule while missing its best players on offense and defense, a key contributor on offense, and playing backup QBs for almost half the season?

That's not bottom-third talent. That's, at the very least, mid-third talent. I'd put us towards the top of the mid third.

I'd say you had a backup in the whole season at QB.

BigMeatballDave 04-30-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582864)
bROFL

Holy shit.

Haters gotta hate.

You cant be so blind in your hate to say this team would not compete for SB with a good QB.

Coogs 04-30-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8582865)
and playing backup QBs for almost half the season?

Actually playing backups QBs all but the last 3 games of the season.

BigCatDaddy 04-30-2012 11:50 AM

The truth is probably somewhere between this

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8582848)
Yep.

And until they prove otherwise, I don't think his ranking is that far off.


and this


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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 8582863)
Minus the QB, the chiefs are in the top 5 in terms of overall talent


keg in kc 04-30-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8582845)
A 7-9 team that got absolutely annihilated in the playoffs of it's 'good' season of the last 1/2 decade just treated the draft like they were Super Bowl winners that just needed to add some depth and build for the future.

28 seems extreme, but 20 wouldn't.

He's right - the powers that be have wildly overestimated the overall talent of this team. The squad is not appreciably better than the 2010 squad that needed an incredibly soft schedule to go 10-6 and get trucked at home in round 1.

This team has 11-5 and 1 and done as its absolute ceiling and a 5-11 floor. It's stuck in that 12-22 range where it's really just subject to blind luck and the whims of the schedule on any given season.

And Pioli showed absolutely no urgency or aggression in this draft at all. It really does suggest a confidence that I just do not understand.

I don't disagree with much except for the idea that the 2012 team can't possibly be appreciably better than the 2010 version. They're better at virtually every position on both lines (obviously in several cases because the same players are better players now than they were two years ago), they're much better at wide receiver, they're likely better at running back (even if Charles isn't the old Charles), they're better at linebacker both inside and out. They're either going to be equal or better at safety. The only positions on the entire roster that don't look to be improved are corner (where the starters are at the least adequate but the depth is questionable) and quarterback (which is unfortunately exactly the same).

And all of that, aside from the Poe pick, was the case before the draft. Which is why I actually liked that they drafted the way that they did, as opposed to making need picks/safe picks on players with less upside.

I think the team as a whole is built to win 10 or 11 games. The question is how many games the quarterback position will cost them. With someone appreciably better than Cassel behind center (say Manning) I think they'd actually be a playoff favorite. All this assuming the injury bug last year was an aberration and not a trend.

Unfortunately we're stuck with Cassel, and there isn't anybody on the bench who's going to come in and save us. Although at least it won't be Palko. Who by himself probably cost us several games last year.

Hog's Gone Fishin 04-30-2012 11:51 AM

Never heard of him but he's obviously a ****ing moron. If we are healthy this year we're competing.Charles,Hillis....Bowe,Breaston, Baldwin and rookie. Line is 100% better than what we fielded last year and now we have a NT that will allow our linebackers to all make the probowl. **** this moron !

boogblaster 04-30-2012 11:51 AM

yea id say we're ranked alittl' low .. 16-20 would be closer .. but i can see his point bout our leak-link .....


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