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notorious 10-01-2012 07:40 AM

:facepalm:

ILChief 10-01-2012 07:45 AM

No

Dayze 10-01-2012 08:02 AM

if the Chiefs defense can hold teams to under 17, and the Chiefs offesnse can run for 250 and have a TOP of 3:1, and our defense force 3 turnovers in their redzone.....Cassel can take us to the promise land.

kgrund 10-01-2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 8966197)
Why does Maas still have a voice and why do people listen to it? Shouldnt he be in jail somewhere?

He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.

bringbackmarty 10-01-2012 08:16 AM

As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.

Predarat 10-01-2012 08:19 AM

Bring him in as the regular season coach, but hire a 'Playoff Cordinator' and send Marty on a paid vacation during the playoffs.

Deberg_1990 10-01-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 8966295)
He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.

The only think Maas has a wealth of info about is Blow and Guns.

notorious 10-01-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 8966295)
He likely knows a shit load more about football than you. He is actually one of the few local guys I listen extra close to. He knows what he is talking about.

Tim Grunhard?

dallaschiefsfan 10-01-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 8966299)
As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.

I'm not sure that you understand what Maas is suggesting. He said hire Marty as a consultant that reports directly to Clark and analyzes what's going wrong with the organization. That evaluation would result in what we all know - Pioli is out of his league and is a "system GM".

Any GM that Clark would replace Pioli with would choose the coach and they would presumably find a QB. I can't imagine a consultant would have anything to do with evaluating and choosing a QB. Despite the vitriol for Marty that some have, Marty IS a leader that men listen to and he's well known, respected and liked in the NFL world.

More importantly, Clark apparently has an affinity for Marty and will LISTEN TO HIM...whereas Clark will NOT listen to us. Do you really think Marty would come to a different conclusion than we have? Same result...I could care less who gets credit. I just want Pioli gone.

Saccopoo 10-01-2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 8966299)
As much as I absolutely loved marty for his defense and his running game, I fail to see how his input could help this team. We need someone who is skilled at evaluating qb's. He's not that guy. I don't think of him as a shrewd evaluator of other positions either. Maybe he had some success drafting LB, DL, CB. Still that's less than five players.

Marty wins because he instills a fundamental winning football mindset into his players. Quickly.

If I was starting over with a franchise and wanted it to get competitive as quickly as possible, Marty would be #1 on my list.

Marty most likely would have several Super Bowl rings with several teams if not for bad breaks by players that were simply beyond his control. (Or in the case of San Diego, a psycho control freak GM.)

I wouldn't mind Marty as Director of Football Operations (or similar "consulting" position) one bit.

After the end of this perfect season.

One and Fifteeno for Geno.

Hydrae 10-01-2012 08:36 AM

I have been surprised by the lack of on-the-field leadership with this team. Pioli made a point of drafting team captain types but I don't see them on Sunday. I see no one with passion and fire getting in people's faces to fire them up also. This leads to slow starts, never leading a game all season except the final score in NO, and just a lackluster attitude from the team. Charles' big runs seems to get them fired up but we need someone who will get these players excited to play each week at the start of the game.

Chiefnj2 10-01-2012 08:38 AM

Clark doesn't need a damn consultant to tell him what's wrong. Stevie Wonder can see what is wrong with this team. Years of poor drafting, poor coaching and players who don't care.

Winston played like Richardson yesterday. Berry played like Piscatelli. Moeaki is useless. And what might be the most telling, Cassel has regressed. I didn't think it was humanly possible for a QB to get worse than Cassel in 2011. But, hell he's done it this year. He can't even dump off the ball accurately. It's amazing how bad every single facet of the game is.

gblowfish 10-01-2012 08:41 AM

Please, let's not talk about Marty again. He couldn't win when he was here before, what makes anybody think anything would be different a second time? Move on from Marty, go after somebody else: Gruden, Cowher, Hell, Tom Osborne, whoever....but no Marty re-runs.

Hammock Parties 10-01-2012 08:41 AM

Haley got more out of Cassel in 2011 than Daboll is this year.

KCTitus 10-01-2012 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8966339)
Marty wins because he instills a fundamental winning football mindset into his players. Quickly.

If I was starting over with a franchise and wanted it to get competitive as quickly as possible, Marty would be #1 on my list.

I shall remember to thank the Lord that you have no ability to make this awful decision on this franchise.

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Marty most likely would have several Super Bowl rings with several teams if not for bad breaks by players that were simply beyond his control. (Or in the case of San Diego, a psycho control freak GM.)
:facepalm:


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