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Hammock Parties 12-16-2012 10:38 PM

stank ashes

LMAO

O.city 12-16-2012 10:40 PM

The Pats got Talib for ****ing peanuts.


Be a player in free agency. You don't have to get the top of the line guys per say at every spot, but ****.


Go sign Byrd, grab a QB first overall, trade a pick to the Eagles for a CB, and have a decent draft and lets see what happens.

Discuss Thrower 12-16-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9216735)
The Pats got Talib for ****ing peanuts.


Be a player in free agency. You don't have to get the top of the line guys per say at every spot, but ****.


Go sign Byrd, grab a QB first overall, trade a pick to the Eagles for a CB, and have a decent draft and lets see what happens.

Insert the stats on most teams only hitting on 25% or so of picks per draft.

KC is ****ed for a few years. Proper ****ed.

Messier 12-16-2012 10:44 PM

The Chiefs need to take a lead from the Royals and make some gutsy moves. I say, after the GM and coach are gone, hire a coach first, and let him be the one with the power, and hire a GM who goes and gets who the coach wants.

mcaj22 12-16-2012 10:45 PM

ill take hitting 25 percent per draft. thats like 1 or 2 guys

we have hit on 0 percent in 3 of the 4 Pioli drafts.

0. Not one ****ing guy in 3 drafts can do shit on this garbage dump of team

O.city 12-16-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 9216752)
Insert the stats on most teams only hitting on 25% or so of picks per draft.

KC is ****ed for a few years. Proper ****ed.

With the draft and free agency, paired with what the Chiefs already have, it shouldn't take a whole hell of alot of time.


To build an NFL team you absolutely must have

A QB
A LT
A pass rusher.


The Chiefs have 2 of those, with an extra pass rusher. But we suck at QB and the other surrounding spots have been filled with absolute shit.

Saccopoo 12-16-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9216657)
There are a lot of good players on this team, that, coached well, and given something to play for, could be important parts of a winning team.

Frankly, even the good players are lost on this team.

You've got very high level players in Johnson, Hali, Bowe, Winston, Flowers, and Charles.

You've got huge potential in guys like Berry, Houston, Hudson, Moeaki and Poe.

You've got solid players in Albert, Boss, Jackson, Breaston, et al.

This is not a team devoid of talent. This is why a lot of media picked them as a dark horse this year.

This is a team devoid of leadership and coaching. On both sides of the ball.

This is a team with perhaps the worst quarterback situation in the NFL.

This is a team with a GM who has created an environment of fear and loathing inside and outside of the organization.

Those problems are going to get fixed in 2013.

The team will rise up and rise up quickly with a new QB, a new coaching staff and a new GM.

This isn't a long term fix. This team is the Colts and Broncos of 2012. There are pieces in place to make this team competitive right out of the gate in 2013, especially considering the division they play in.

Draft Geno and do your due diligence and find a competent GM and coaching staff and this team, in 2013, is a better team than anything we've seen in nearly a decade.

chiefzilla1501 12-16-2012 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9216702)
I am on board with a 3 year rebuild if its like the Colts rebuild where a new regime comes in and completely cuts/purges 3/4s of the roster no matter who it is.

I don't see any reason why this team can't be very competitive by 2013 if Geno plays very well and the coaching staff is very good. The idea that the Chiefs need an overhaul is an overreaction, probably from people who think a team needs to have 53 pro bowlers on the roster.

The Chiefs have ability to get a new coaching staff, draft an elite QB, and cap space and draft position to add a few upgrades in key positions. This is not a 3 year project.

Hammock Parties 12-16-2012 10:48 PM

Would have been nice if Sam had included the full stat line on NoBowe:

9 quarters, 320 yards, 0 points in the last two seasons without him.

He is better than anyone knows.

mcaj22 12-16-2012 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9216809)
I don't see any reason why this team can't be very competitive by 2013 if Geno plays very well and the coaching staff is very good. The idea that the Chiefs need an overhaul is an overreaction, probably from people who think a team needs to have 53 pro bowlers on the roster.

The Chiefs have ability to get a new coaching staff, draft an elite QB, and cap space and draft position to add a few upgrades in key positions. This is not a 3 year project.

even if they draft Geno and the current roster you still win maybe 6 games at best next season.

O.city 12-16-2012 10:50 PM

I do think that this team has pretty much given up. Hell I think they did that a while ago.

I will say I'm a little more optimistic about some of the players here than others, but I understand where others are coming from.

For instance, Berry. I think he's finally getting healthy, same with Moeaki. I also think some of the guys that actually are talented are being misused. Look at Houston. Dude doesnt' need to be in coverage as much as he is.

But, like mcaj22 has been saying, on the offensive side, we have shit at alot of places.

Dexter is shit. Baldwin is shit. Newsome etc.

Discuss Thrower 12-16-2012 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9216809)
I don't see any reason why this team can't be very competitive by 2013 if Geno plays very well and the coaching staff is very good. The idea that the Chiefs need an overhaul is an overreaction, probably from people who think a team needs to have 53 pro bowlers on the roster.

The Chiefs have ability to get a new coaching staff, draft an elite QB, and cap space and draft position to add a few upgrades in key positions. This is not a 3 year project.

We don't need 53 pro bowlers. We need at least 33 NFL caliber players.

KC has maybe 13.

milkman 12-16-2012 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9216811)
Would have been nice if Sam had included the full stat line on NoBowe:

9 quarters, 320 yards, 0 points in the last two seasons without him.

He is better than anyone knows.

But....But...he's a selfish overrated player.

Dave Lane 12-16-2012 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 9216598)
Yep, let's start fresh and add new blood to start the 3013 Chiefs. We need serious change here.

Thats serious long term planning. Maybe we will have even won a Superbowl by then.

Demonpenz 12-16-2012 10:53 PM

Reminds me of this cow that we had on the farm. It got stick in the ice on the pond and it was dead as ****. We could have wasted a day trying to get a bobcat to get the dead ass cow out of there, but we were like **** it, I just rented streets of rage. Lets beat that shit.


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