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Mike in SW-MO 03-14-2013 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9497934)
BTW... there were a bunch of tuck rules last year. More than I'd ever seen before. Wonder why that is.
Because qbs figured out if you do a pump fake & never tuck yhe ball, you can't get called for a fumble.

R8RFAN 03-14-2013 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9497956)
refs were paid off that game....even if it was against OAK...I'm totally convinced of that.
Yup.... Worst call ever but Oakland still could have won the game...

notorious 03-14-2013 01:57 PM
Prepare for the New England fan invasion.


It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.

shocked 03-14-2013 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9498154)
Prepare for the New England fan invasion.


It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.

You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?


Oh, dear.

shocked 03-14-2013 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike in SW-MO (Post 9498146)
Because qbs figured out if you do a pump fake & never tuck yhe ball, you can't get called for a fumble.

If you do a pump fake your arm has to reach its full range of motion eventually

The moment it stops? Fumble.

notorious 03-14-2013 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 9498170)
You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?


Oh, dear.
They used the rule to bail NE out.


You could watch 100 plays exactly like it before and after that particular play and it's a fumble every time.

That's what I meant.

jettio 03-14-2013 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 9498170)
You actually think it was made up? On the spot? As if nothing existed prior to '01 divisional game?


Oh, dear.
When I was watching the game I expected Walt Coleman to say no fumble because I saw the rule invoked in a game earlier that season.

IIRC it was a Rams game and Kurt Warner was the QB involved. The announcer for that game knew the rule and explained how what looked like a fumble was called an incomplete pass.

Anyway, no fan of the rule, but it had been used before that famous play in the snow.

Amnorix 03-14-2013 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9497956)
refs were paid off that game....even if it was against OAK...I'm totally convinced of that.

Even though the rule was called correctly? Makes perfect sense.

Amnorix 03-14-2013 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9498154)
Prepare for the New England fan invasion.


It's obvious that the tuck rule was made up because of the debacle that took place in the snow so many years ago.
Err...what? The rule existed prior to the Pats/Raiders game. I assume you know that...?

Amnorix 03-14-2013 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 9498277)
They used the rule to bail NE out.


You could watch 100 plays exactly like it before and after that particular play and it's a fumble every time.

That's what I meant.

I got you now.

errr....so they correctly called the rule, but only did it to bail the Pats out?

You'd think, if they were bought off, that they could've moved Vinatieri's kick in a little closer. I mean, seriously, that's a pretty mediocre job of fixing the game, to force the Pats to make an absurdly difficult kick to tie it.

Jiu Jitsu Jon 03-14-2013 10:39 PM
About 12 years too late. I demand that the Raiders be retroactively rewarded the Lombardi that year, and also that I get a $25 gift card to Old Chicago.

Chiefshrink 03-14-2013 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by durtyrute (Post 9497943)
That was the biggest, most made up ****ing rule in the history of the game. I hate the Faid almost as much as I hate the donks -and I really hate the donks -but the inmates should've won that game.
This x10000 !:thumb:

Mother****erJones 03-14-2013 10:43 PM
Man loved watching the Faiders getting ****ed, then I thought Denver was gona get lucky with it

Ugly Duck 03-14-2013 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 9498183)
If you do a pump fake your arm has to reach its full range of motion eventually

The moment it stops? Fumble.
Unless you never tuck the ball after the full range of pump-fake motion. Then Mike in SW-MO is right... QB could scramble around all day & never have to worry about a fumble call....

Ace Gunner 03-15-2013 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Sully (Post 9498050)
Great!
Because there's definitely a clear delineation between when the ball is being tucked and when the arm is still going forward!

Judgment calls, FTW!!!
well shit, if you can't tell the diff between the two, you should bag groceries for a living.

the change takes a dumb rule from the game. that's good. too many rules. to much face time for refs these days.


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