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Marcellus 03-19-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9514175)
Well if we could have Brandon Carr back, I'd gladly give the compensatory pick back.

But with the additions of Smith and Robinson, he acknowledges the needs in the secondary. More depth. I like it.

Interesting you say that. You will love this article.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...014-and-beyond



The Kansas City Chiefs have new leadership, but it will take time before the roster doesn’t have Scott *****’s fingerprints all over it. Although ***** clearly made mistakes, not every move he made was a bad one. Perhaps one of the better moves ***** made last offseason was letting Brandon Carr leave in free agency and saving the money for the future.

In return for Carr, the Chiefs received a compensatory draft pick in the third round, pick No. 96 from the NFL. That’s a top 100 pick in a deep draft just for letting Carr leave in free agency. If the Chiefs had signed Carr, they likely wouldn’t be able to trade him and his contract for a higher pick than they received by letting him walk.

It’s true that the Chiefs didn’t do a good job of replacing Carr because Stanford Routt was a total bust, but there were other options. ***** simply made a poor move by signing Routt to replace Carr, but a good move in letting Carr sign a huge contract with the Dallas Cowboys. The failure to replace Carr may have contributed to a 2-14 record, but letting him go certainly didn’t.

Stanford Routt wasn't a good signing, but he wasn't the only cornerback available to replace Carr.


Just how much a cornerback can impact a team’s record is subject to debate. Would the Chiefs have won three games with Carr at cornerback? Maybe the Chiefs win four games? It’s impossible to know how much better the Chiefs would have been with Carr, but it’s safe to say they wouldn’t have been that much better.

***** avoided overpaying Carr, which led to the Chiefs receiving a good draft pick and their corresponding ability to sign Sean Smith for less than half the cost. In the sense of a trade, it would be Carr for Smith, a top 100 draft pick and $5 million per year over the next three years. In hindsight, ***** set the Chiefs up for future success simple by not giving into the pressure to re-sign Carr.

You could certainly make a case that Smith was actually better than Carr in 2012. According to ProFootballFocus (subscription required), Smith allowed only 54.9 percent of the passes thrown at him to be completed in 2012; Carr allowed 58.6 percent of the passes thrown at him to be completed. There are certainly some stats that favor Carr, but the two cornerbacks provided their teams with similar production last season.

Sean Smith had comparable production to Brandon Carr in 2012.



Smith is going to make an average of $5.5 million per season according to Spotrac.com and can be released after two years, which would bump his average per year down even further. Carr’s contract required a restructuring just to get the Cowboys some cap relief, and he’ll make more than twice as much in guaranteed money alone. Carr will also be tied to the Cowboys for several more years regardless of production.

For all of *****’s faults, he set the Chiefs up for success. By letting Carr walk in free agency, the Chiefs were also able to rollover $14.0 million in cap space. Part of the reason the Chiefs have been able to be so active in free agency is that extra cap space. According to Spotrac.com, the Chiefs’ top 51 contracts currently total $120.5 million with another $13.3 million in dead money which would put the team way over the cap if not for the rollover.



Chiefs wouldn’t have been able to do all what they have done to re-shape the football team. According to Spotrac.com figures, the Chiefs have committed over $38 million in 2013 cap dollars this offseason with the trade for Alex Smith, re-signing of Dwayne Bowe, franchise tag for Branden Albert, re-signing Dustin Colquitt and the additions in free agency. The Chiefs wouldn’t have been able to half those things with a huge contract for Carr on the books and significantly less cap rollover.

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Chiefs fans should realize just how lucky they are that their new regime has the resources for a quick turnaround. The cap space when combined with an early draft pick in each round of the draft is ideal, even if having the No. 1 pick without a consensus top player isn’t ideal.

A quick look around the AFC West is all you need to do in order to appreciate the Chiefs’ situation. The Raiders are in year two and still don’t have much cap space or a full allotment of draft picks, and the Chargers are in year one of their rebuild with mid-round picks in each round and very little cap space.

***** may have been a total failure in Kansas City, but at least he left a parting gift instead of sabotaging the team for years to come by overspending on free agents and trading valuable draft picks for declining veterans. *****’s unwillingness to succumb to the pressure to win immediately resulted in his firing, but also in the team’s ability to quickly rebound without him.

Johnny Vegas 03-19-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9514159)
LMAO

We're paying this dude $7.5 million to get roasted this year.

Can't wait.

or we could've kept Pioli and acquired Kirk Ferentz to save that $7.5M and spend it on the OL along with letting Bowe go and losing Albert. To me that $7.5M is sofa change for a starting CB and its even less significant because we got a regime that players want to come and play for.

Hammock Parties 03-19-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9514193)
Elite corners make 7.5m ? You might wanna go check something other then PFF. Year 2 he makes 3.5m

Elite corners definitely making something in the $7.5 million range per year.

He's being paid like he's a top corner this year. That's funny!

The Bad Guy 03-19-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9514168)
It's silly to think a guy who has never come close to being a good CB is being paid like an elite one this year.

He's getting paid like an average one for the length of the contract. Keep with your semantics.

You've beaten this drum to death. You know nothing about the player but what you read on Dolphin message boards and PFF.

It's pathetic really.

The Bad Guy 03-19-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9514233)
Elite corners definitely making something in the $7.5 million range per year.

He's being paid like he's a top corner this year. That's funny!

Why do you care what the structure of his contract is?

Funny is your piss poor knowledge of football.

Hammock Parties 03-19-2013 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9514269)
Why do you care what the structure of his contract is?

Funny is your piss poor knowledge of football.

I don't really care, I just think it's funny.

This clown franchise is and always has been amusing.

The Bad Guy 03-19-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9514278)
I don't really care, I just think it's funny.

This clown franchise is and always has been amusing.

Why is it a clown move? To get a corner for 3 years, 16 million dollars is a bad thing? Only you would cry about the structure of the deal.

What's funny and amusing is how you, who wanted Reid and Dorsey here, cry about a move to the heavens until games have actually been played.

If you wanted these guys here, I don't understand waiting until you see a product on the field to complain.

Smith was used a lot playing off-man coverage in Miami. Not his game and never has been his game.

If he's going to be used in press man a majority of the time, he's a different player.

You wanted to pay Carr last year and he was pretty terrible for the Cowboys. It's how players are used.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-19-2013 03:37 PM

Let the hilarity ensue!
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Hammock Parties 03-19-2013 03:43 PM

Will Smith be more like toasty, or crispy? Or a combination?

Renegade 03-19-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 9514175)
Well if we could have Brandon Carr back, I'd gladly give the compensatory pick back.

But with the additions of Smith and Robinson, he acknowledges the needs in the secondary. More depth. I like it.

What do you think the depth chart will look like this year? This is I see it breaking down this early. That could be some crazy depth at DB with the signings we have had.

QB-3
RB-5
WR-6
TE-3/4
OL-7
DL-6/7
LB-6
DB-7/8
K-1
P-1
LS-1
KR/PR-1

LoneWolf 03-19-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell (Post 9514301)
Will Smith be more like toasty, or crispy? Or a combination?

You should be able to tell us. You've been right about everything since 2010 according to you. You're Nostradouchemas.

Stick to videos jackass. It's the only thing you're good at.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-19-2013 03:58 PM

I can't believe Stanzi still has a job. Sorry, Iowa people.
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Mother****erJones 03-19-2013 04:00 PM

Well Clay maybe you'd rather Clark be cheap and stick with Arenas and Jalil Brown

Hammock Parties 03-19-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 9514308)
You should be able to tell us. You've been right about everything since 2010 according to you.

Agreed. I'm thinking the William Bartee comparison will be quite apt when it's all said and done. There was actually some debate over whether Warfield was good for awhile. There was none with Bartee. So it will be with Sean "Crispy" Smith.

BlackHelicopters 03-19-2013 04:04 PM

If anyone on CP has started a shoot Peter King with a high powered sniper rifle fund, put me down for 5 bucks.


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