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Jerm 04-29-2013 05:06 PM

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Molitoth 04-29-2013 05:10 PM

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Saccopoo 04-29-2013 05:17 PM

Jets.

They get the best QB in the draft in Geno Smith.

They get the best DT in the draft in Sheldon Richardson.

They get the best CB in the draft in Dee Milliner.

They get the best FB in the draft in Tommy Bohanon.

They get two really good, really nasty offensive linemen in Oday Aboushi (NFL.com had him being taken in the first 75 picks and Jets stole him in the fifth round) and Brian Winter that will probably start Day 1.

And they get a really high upside player in Will Campbell that can play either side of the ball on the line.

Geno, Richardson and Milliner were all players who were spoken of as being potential #1 overall picks in this draft and the Jets got all three - and all three (six including Winter, Aboushi and Bohanon) are all at positions of need. Six potential Day 1 starters. That is NFL Draft Gold if you ask me.

The Jets and the Chiefs are basically in the exact same situation. Both fired incompetent general managers who basically ruined the franchise. However the new regimes have taken two different approaches to rebuilding their franchises: the Chiefs decided to build the team through free agency, signing QB Alex Smith, TE Anthony Fasano, DT Mike DeVito, CB Sean Smith; the Jets have gone the route of building through the draft at the same positions as what the Chiefs picked up in free agency. Geno Smith vs. Alex Smith. Sean Smith vs. Dee Milliner. Sheldon Richardson vs. Mike DeVito.

It will be interesting to follow both and see who gets the most success. (I'm doing this as I was on the Geno train very early for the Chiefs and am interested in seeing his NFL career progress.)

St. Louis Rams is #2.

All really, really good players that were drafted and all at positions of need. High impact, high ceiling players on both sides of the ball.

I would have taken both teams players in each round over what the Chiefs ended up with.

Molitoth 04-29-2013 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9644401)
Jets.

They get the best QB in the draft in Geno Smith.

They get the best DT in the draft in Sheldon Richardson.

They get the best CB in the draft in Dee Milliner.

They get the best FB in the draft in Tommy Bohanon.

They get two really good, really nasty offensive linemen in Oday Aboushi (NFL.com had him being taken in the first 75 picks and Jets stole him in the fifth round) and Brian Winter that will probably start Day 1.

And they get a really high upside player in Will Campbell that can play either side of the ball on the line.

Geno, Richardson and Milliner were all players who were spoken of as being potential #1 overall picks in this draft and the Jets got all three - and all three (six including Winter, Aboushi and Bohanon) are all at positions of need. Six potential Day 1 starters. That is NFL Draft Gold if you ask me.

The Jets and the Chiefs are basically in the exact same situation. Both fired incompetent general managers who basically ruined the franchise. However the new regimes have taken two different approaches to rebuilding their franchises: the Chiefs decided to build the team through free agency, signing QB Alex Smith, TE Anthony Fasano, DT Mike DeVito, CB Sean Smith; the Jets have gone the route of building through the draft.

It will be interesting to follow both and see who gets the most success. (I'm doing this as I was on the Geno train very early for the Chiefs and am interested in seeing his NFL career progress.)

Exactly the way I look at it.
I'll be watching both teams this year in comparison.

GoChargers 04-29-2013 05:21 PM

The Jets, Redskins, and Rams had the best drafts IMO.

Buehler445 04-29-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 9644362)
Ravens always seem to have a good draft. Not a coincidence.

I agree they do draft well, but their FO is not without it's problems. They were butt****ed from the cap and had to let a lot of good talent walk.

patteeu 04-29-2013 05:23 PM

The Rams and Vikings loaded up.

Every team that drafted a QB before the 5th round lost.

Saccopoo 04-29-2013 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9644412)
The Rams and Vikings loaded up.

Every team that drafted a QB before the 5th round lost.

The Vikings were on the "We are winning the Draft" path until they gave up all their decent round picks to move up for Patterson, who wasn't even the best receiver on his college team. It was a ton that they gave up to get him in the hopes that he is the second coming of Percy Harvin.

Pitt Gorilla 04-29-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9644412)
Every team that drafted a QB before the 5th round lost.

But at least they were trying. I would have taken Barkley/Smith 1.1! /cp

AdumbGuy 04-29-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9644401)
Jets.

They get the best QB in the draft in Geno Smith.

They get the best DT in the draft in Sheldon Richardson.

They get the best CB in the draft in Dee Milliner.

They get the best FB in the draft in Tommy Bohanon.

They get two really good, really nasty offensive linemen in Oday Aboushi (NFL.com had him being taken in the first 75 picks and Jets stole him in the fifth round) and Brian Winter that will probably start Day 1.

And they get a really high upside player in Will Campbell that can play either side of the ball on the line.

Geno, Richardson and Milliner were all players who were spoken of as being potential #1 overall picks in this draft and the Jets got all three - and all three (six including Winter, Aboushi and Bohanon) are all at positions of need. Six potential Day 1 starters. That is NFL Draft Gold if you ask me.

The Jets and the Chiefs are basically in the exact same situation. Both fired incompetent general managers who basically ruined the franchise. However the new regimes have taken two different approaches to rebuilding their franchises: the Chiefs decided to build the team through free agency, signing QB Alex Smith, TE Anthony Fasano, DT Mike DeVito, CB Sean Smith; the Jets have gone the route of building through the draft at the same positions as what the Chiefs picked up in free agency. Geno Smith vs. Alex Smith. Sean Smith vs. Dee Milliner. Sheldon Richardson vs. Mike DeVito.

It will be interesting to follow both and see who gets the most success. (I'm doing this as I was on the Geno train very early for the Chiefs and am interested in seeing his NFL career progress.)

St. Louis Rams is #2.

All really, really good players that were drafted and all at positions of need. High impact, high ceiling players on both sides of the ball.

I would have taken both teams players in each round over what the Chiefs ended up with.

Can never really say until you see them play a couple of years, but excellent post on why, right now, their draft looks pretty solid.

Rasputin 04-29-2013 05:52 PM

Doesn't sound like the Panthers gave Cam Newton any weapons and that leaves Steve Smith as his primary target. Steve Smith is getting old especially as WRs go. I don't see how Cam Newton is going progress any better with out help.



So I'd put the Panthers down as losers.

BigBeauford 04-29-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9644401)
Jets.

They get the best QB in the draft in Geno Smith.

They get the best DT in the draft in Sheldon Richardson.

They get the best CB in the draft in Dee Milliner.

They get the best FB in the draft in Tommy Bohanon.

They get two really good, really nasty offensive linemen in Oday Aboushi (NFL.com had him being taken in the first 75 picks and Jets stole him in the fifth round) and Brian Winter that will probably start Day 1.

And they get a really high upside player in Will Campbell that can play either side of the ball on the line.

Geno, Richardson and Milliner were all players who were spoken of as being potential #1 overall picks in this draft and the Jets got all three - and all three (six including Winter, Aboushi and Bohanon) are all at positions of need. Six potential Day 1 starters. That is NFL Draft Gold if you ask me.

The Jets and the Chiefs are basically in the exact same situation. Both fired incompetent general managers who basically ruined the franchise. However the new regimes have taken two different approaches to rebuilding their franchises: the Chiefs decided to build the team through free agency, signing QB Alex Smith, TE Anthony Fasano, DT Mike DeVito, CB Sean Smith; the Jets have gone the route of building through the draft at the same positions as what the Chiefs picked up in free agency. Geno Smith vs. Alex Smith. Sean Smith vs. Dee Milliner. Sheldon Richardson vs. Mike DeVito.

It will be interesting to follow both and see who gets the most success. (I'm doing this as I was on the Geno train very early for the Chiefs and am interested in seeing his NFL career progress.)

St. Louis Rams is #2.

All really, really good players that were drafted and all at positions of need. High impact, high ceiling players on both sides of the ball.

I would have taken both teams players in each round over what the Chiefs ended up with.

Rep for sure. Really subjectively (I personally was a Geno fan) and objectively it is hard to argue this was a quality Jet's draft.

Saccopoo 04-29-2013 05:59 PM

Losers:

Chiefs

They basically drafted potential backups with every single pick.

Fisher isn't guaranteed to beat out either Albert or Stephenson.

Kelce is going to have to beat out Moeaki and Fasano.

Davis is definitely a backup and who knows if he can even beat out guys like Grey and Droughn for even rotational time.

Sanders Commings is third down guy who we took because Berry can't cover anybody.

Kush and Catapano? Who the **** are these guys? You're telling me that all the really good football players end up at U of Cal Pennsylvania and Princeton? Jesus...

Johnson is the only guy in this entire draft who has any starting potential at all outside of Fisher. A bunch of special teamers at best.

patteeu 04-29-2013 06:02 PM

Some of the biggest winners of the draft were Planeteers who refused to buy into the argument that it was worth using the 1.1 on a QB just so the Chiefs could say they tried.

Some of the biggest losers? Well, you know who you are.

Pablo 04-29-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 9644437)
But at least they were trying. I would have taken Barkley/Smith 1.1! /cp

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