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vailpass 08-17-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9894328)
“tejada I've been using it for the past five years and had medical permission from MLB. But my last permit expired on April 15 and they didn't gave me another. I knew that I was in risk of breaking the rules, but at the same time, I could not stop using the medicine because I suffer from ADD. It's not a vice, it is a disease.
”-- Miguel Tejada


sounds like a legitimate "grey" area to me


did baseball say why they refuse to extend his permission?

Good question. It's a legal, prescribed medication. His past history probably didn't help.

SPATCH 08-17-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9894318)
You do realize what Adderall is, don't you?

What? an amphetamine? Yes, I know that. I have used it before, as well.

I don't buy that it would make you a better baseball player, whatsoever.

cabletech94 08-17-2013 02:18 PM

might explain the "60 day disabled list" for what, a hammy. or was it calf, knee, leg, brain?

and in all seriousness, the guy really did bring some excitement.

and cue the well, bye pics.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9894339)
Good question. It's a legal, prescribed medication. His past history probably didn't help.

it where the problem would arrive for no tolerance, lifetime ban for the first offense wouldn't be fair.

I'm not saying that Tejada is innocent or anything but Tejada had been using for 5 year WITH permission.


There needs to be compromise in situations like these. imo.

tredadda 08-17-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9894328)
“tejada I've been using it for the past five years and had medical permission from MLB. But my last permit expired on April 15 and they didn't gave me another. I knew that I was in risk of breaking the rules, but at the same time, I could not stop using the medicine because I suffer from ADD. It's not a vice, it is a disease.
”-- Miguel Tejada


sounds like a legitimate "grey" area to me


did baseball say why they refuse to extend his permission?

Something tells me there is more to the story than what Tejada is saying.

vailpass 08-17-2013 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 9894369)
it where the problem would arrive for no tolerance, lifetime ban for the first offense wouldn't be fair.

I'm not saying that Tejada is innocent or anything but Tejada had been using for 5 year WITH permission.


There needs to be compromise in situations like these. imo.

If these are the full facts I have to agree. If.

SPATCH 08-17-2013 02:22 PM

The fact that this suspension doesn't involve any HGH/steriods actually means that Miggy might still LEGITIMATELY have something left in the tank, actually.

vailpass 08-17-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9894378)
The fact that this suspension doesn't involve any HGH/steriods actually means that Miggy might still LEGITIMATELY have something left in the tank, actually.

He might have the latest non-testable ped left in the syringe too.

Molitoth 08-17-2013 02:27 PM

MLB is ****ing reeruned. Whats next? No use of asprins?

Anyong Bluth 08-17-2013 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9894361)
What, an amphetamine? Yes, I know that. I have used it before, as well.

I don't buy that it would make you a better baseball player, whatsoever.

The gains would be minimal - as someone that has a legally prescribed prescription for it I have a pretty good insight on this.

5 years of use is even more evidence in favor as this has been a normal ongoing treatment. The drug is highly controlled and regulated, at minimum he has to have a follow-up with his doctor every 3 months.

So, basically we're in the dark about why his exemption suddenly was denied, and I'm not all for defending PED use and skirting the system, but really MLB is either misinformed or their policy is needs changing regarding this.

So far it looks like he is being dinged for an administrative error.

I know it may seem like I'm making excuses for the guy, but if you understand the nature of the use for this when legitimately prescribed then there should be no issues if he was already exempt for years.

Anyong Bluth 08-17-2013 02:35 PM

I posted this in another thread but now that it has it's own discussion. ..
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9894207)
I want to believe the guy. Heard him in an interview on 610 last week and he came out and said that he preferred the team had gone out and gotten another second baseman to make the team better. Surely someone that selfless has to be telling the truth here, right?

What I'm confused by is 1st the denial of his reapplication when it was medically cleared before.

Second, this policy is poorly implemented, because use of it is not something you can just stop at a set date- there are real health implications doing that, not to mention some pretty nasty side effects as your system flushes itself and has to readjust to the absence of the medication.

Lastly, why did he never have to serve the 28 game suspension- even if he was appealing there should have been a determination, and if that wasn't resolved yet, given the medication and previous exemption, he should have been allowed to continue to take it until a final ruling.

It makes no sense that he should get dinged for a 3rd offense if there was a process of appeal and/or reapplication given the substance in question as I have pointed out above and no doctor would advocate immediate discontinuation of a medication like adderall.

Plus, what is this policy of expiring medical excemption? This is a class of drugs to treat an ongoing disorder that doesn't magically cure itself, so its not as if his medical need would say compared to, for example, the temporary prescribing of other banned substances such as steroids to treat an isolated medical condition.

SPATCH 08-17-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 9894384)
He might have the latest non-testable ped left in the syringe too.

When a saw the tweet that said 105 game suspension I thought, "No wonder he was playing so well"

When I saw adderall... that didn't take away from how legitimate I thought his success was

vailpass 08-17-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula (Post 9894411)
When a saw the tweet that said 105 game suspension I thought, "No wonder he was playing so well"

When I saw adderall... that didn't take away from how legitimate I thought his success was

Fair statement. I'm jaded on baseball players and juice. I think it's part of the game.

BigMeatballDave 08-17-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 9894388)
MLB is ****ing reeruned. Whats next? No use of asprins?

How is this the same as Adderal?

BlackHelicopters 08-17-2013 04:12 PM

Speed kills. What a dum****tard


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