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Buehler445 08-21-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9904391)
No interest in downsizing as you get older?

That's a big negative, boss.

kepp 08-21-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9904395)
I'm in. Like now. I've had dreams that I was part of homesteading in our country over a century ago. I'd be all over it. 640 is alot. I'd probably let some of the natives hang out with me and share crop some of mine, like most of it. A few questions:
1. Are the native women good looking
2. Is there ample native fauna to hunt
3. Can I bring a still?

All good questions.

Rain Man 08-21-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge (Post 9904395)
I'm in. Like now. I've had dreams that I was part of homesteading in our country over a century ago. I'd be all over it. 640 is alot. I'd probably let some of the natives hang out with me and share crop some of mine, like most of it. A few questions:
1. Are the native women good looking
2. Is there ample native fauna to hunt
3. Can I bring a still?


1. Not really. They're small and roundish and have odd ornamentation.
2. No. It's mostly open farmland. There is a rabbit-sized local mammal that is somewhat gamey but good in stew, and some long-necked birds migrate overhead twice a year.
3. 'T'aint nobody's bizness but your'n.

Rain Man 08-21-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9904396)
You realize how FAR a 4 day drive is? You can drive from Lisbon to Moscow in 4 days easily. I'm not sure there is an actual spot on earth that is remote enough to qualify for this condition.

There aren't really roads. It's more like four-wheel drive tracks.

Stewie 08-21-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9904387)
TOTALLY depends on where the 640 acres are.

And my answer is no.

EDIT: 640 isn't a great expanse. It's a mile by a mile.

I guess I don't understand what we're doing. Homesteading to me is starting from scratch.

Do we have tractors, fuel, fertilizer, seed, etc.? One mile by one mile is huge if your doing things by hand. On a tractor with sufficient fuel, no problem.

DJ's left nut 08-21-2013 02:38 PM

I was with you until "on your won for school, etc..."

Not gonna send my kid to some rathole school in Guam. If part of the homestead act also put in a few American schools in the area, I'd be on board. But if my presence isn't exactly welcomed, I'm not going to send my kid to a school where he's probably going to be hated and barely speak the language.

Essentially, it's the same reason I won't be moving to East LA anytime soon...

Dave Lane 08-21-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9904396)
You realize how FAR a 4 day drive is? You can drive from Lisbon to Moscow in 4 days easily. I'm not sure there is an actual spot on earth that is remote enough to qualify for this condition.
(at least none that are arable)

That was my thought I could easily drive LA to DC in four days.

Maybe this is remote china.

Also what the skies at night like there, heavy light pollution or fantastic?

Is Chiefsplanet blocked? Might. Be interesting either way.

Buehler445 08-21-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 9904405)
I guess I don't understand what we're doing. Homesteading to me is starting from scratch.

Do we have tractors, fuel, fertilizer, seed, etc.? One mile by one mile is huge if your doing things by hand. On a tractor with sufficient fuel, no problem.

It's all about how much productivity you can get out of the ground. If it is arid and most of it has to sit fallow/have the livestock rotated off, 2 people can do it easy. If it is more productive, then you can keep some people busy.

RM said there would be mechanization. Better than oxen I believe he said. Even with oxen, 640 with 2 people is manageable in the right environment.

Rain Man 08-21-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9904406)
I was with you until "on your won for school, etc..."

Not gonna send my kid to some rathole school in Guam. If part of the homestead act also put in a few American schools in the area, I'd be on board. But if my presence isn't exactly welcomed, I'm not going to send my kid to a school where he's probably going to be hated and barely speak the language.

Essentially, it's the same reason I won't be moving to East LA anytime soon...

There would be a small one-room schoolhouse in the town that's one day away, but most people home school. Maybe you could rotate classes with your neighbors and their kids, too.

Rain Man 08-21-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9904419)
That was my thought I could easily drive LA to DC in four days.

Maybe this is remote china.

Also what the skies at night like there, heavy light pollution or fantastic?

Is Chiefsplanet blocked? Might. Be interesting either way.

Not on these roads. They get heavily rutted during the spring mud season.

There is almost no light pollution. You can see the Milky Way with your bare eyes.

Chiefsplanet is not blocked unless your spouse does it.

kepp 08-21-2013 02:56 PM

How much influence would the US government have/exert? What would the justice system look like and how would that system be reconciled with the natives' existing laws?

BlackHelicopters 08-21-2013 02:58 PM

Still able to access CP has to be a plus.

DJ's left nut 08-21-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9904439)
There would be a small one-room schoolhouse in the town that's one day away, but most people home school. Maybe you could rotate classes with your neighbors and their kids, too.

Still no.

I'm stupid. My neighbors are probably stupid. Me and my stupid neighbors teaching 8 kids about algebra and life lessons will work out incredibly poorly.

I'm going to end up with the Caribbean version of an idiot redneck child. Nah, not appealing in the least.

MTG#10 08-21-2013 03:03 PM

How do these indigenous folks feel about the raping of their women? Do they frown upon it or is it acceptable in their culture?

Rain Man 08-21-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 9904446)
How much influence would the US government have/exert? What would the justice system look like and how would that system be reconciled with the natives' existing laws?


The army comes by occasionally for a welfare check as noted in the original post, and an extension office worker comes once a month for farming advice.

There is an American justice system. The court is in the big city that's four days away, but the judge does a circuit riding thing to the small towns, so once a month you have a court day in the small town that's one day away. Law enforcement is formally done by the army or a lone sheriff who patrols in a Land Rover across the 1,000 farms in the region, so if there's trouble it'll take a day or two or three for him to respond.

This is an American territory so the natives' existing laws will be politely but explicitly ignored, which is another thing they don't like.


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