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-King- 08-21-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9904831)
Apple has the cash to do whatever it wants including buy most countries.

And Google doesn't? :)

-King- 08-21-2013 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9904813)
No way. Google doesn't do TV. Look for Netflix to beat them out. They got Emmy's in their first attempt. NFL likes safe, not the gamble.

Yes...they do.

DaFace 08-21-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9904817)
Nope. Servers would crash. It would be chaos. It's staying with DirecTV. No question. CBS, FOX, etc., won't let it happen. Posturing. It's DirecTV's cash cow and it's going nowhere.

:spock:

Dayze 08-21-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 9904881)
I just bought a smart TV which gives you internet on the TV. That may be the way we're all headed.

I wish I would've sprung the extra few bones when I bought my plasma 2 yrs ago. Oh we'll.....might have to tell the wife it's time to upgrade the tv in the cave :D

DaFace 08-21-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9905081)
I wish I would've sprung the extra few bones when I bought my plasma 2 yrs ago. Oh we'll.....might have to tell the wife it's time to upgrade the tv in the cave :D

http://www.google.com/chromecast

Dayze 08-21-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 9905084)

:hmmm:
Never even heard of that.

BigChiefFan 08-21-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9905081)
I wish I would've sprung the extra few bones when I bought my plasma 2 yrs ago. Oh we'll.....might have to tell the wife it's time to upgrade the tv in the cave :D

PS3 has been doing the same thing for eons.

007 08-21-2013 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 9905118)
PS3 has been doing the same thing for eons.

Well, it only does everything!!!!

DaFace 08-21-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze (Post 9905109)
:hmmm:
Never even heard of that.

It's brand new. Just does Netflix and Youtube for the most part right now, but you can bet that it would be supported if Google ever took over NFLST.

AustinChief 08-21-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 9904813)
No way. Google doesn't do TV. Look for Netflix to beat them out. They got Emmy's in their first attempt. NFL likes safe, not the gamble.

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 9904817)
Nope. Servers would crash.

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Originally Posted by CrazyPhuD (Post 9904839)
While google doesn't have the streaming expertise either

LOL WUT?

There's a whole lot of "don't know what the **** I'm talking about" in this thread.

Are you guys forgetting that Google owns YouTube? YouTube already has live streaming capacity.

Google has the money, the capacity and apparently ( http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/bu...vice.html?_r=0 ) the desire to get into live TV broadcasting. Chromecast was just the first step.. assuming they can get the media companies to play ball.

Bugeater 08-21-2013 08:25 PM

Oh please...let this happen...**** Directv.

chiefroyalfan 08-21-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater (Post 9905193)
Oh please...let this happen...**** Directv.

:shake:

L.A. Chieffan 08-21-2013 08:52 PM

Google can do whatever they want. Not sure why people think they dont have the technical power to do it.

CrazyPhuD 08-21-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief (Post 9905159)
LOL WUT?

There's a whole lot of "don't know what the **** I'm talking about" in this thread.

Are you guys forgetting that Google owns YouTube? YouTube already has live streaming capacity.

Google has the money, the capacity and apparently ( http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/17/bu...vice.html?_r=0 ) the desire to get into live TV broadcasting. Chromecast was just the first step.. assuming they can get the media companies to play ball.

No offense but you really don't know the technical issues here. What I said in full context was that Netflix doesn't have the live streaming experience and neither does google...the emphasis was on LIVE.

Why? Because the architecture to deliver efficient live broadcasting is very different than the architecture to deliver traditional internet services. The internet is simply not built for efficient broadcasting of live content. That's why the cable companies/satellite companies and even google fiber has a very different network architecture for delivering broadcast content.

As to google wanting to deliver TV services, they already do with google fiber. AND if they wanted to deliver a cableTV competitor with IPTV they could offer the product tomorrow. The licensing rights aren't rocket science and they already license the same content for google fiber.

So if they can easily get the rights like any other cableTV provider then why don't they? There is some potential risk about local regulation and cableTV providers but honestly that's probably a minor issue.

Simply put to try to deliver live broadcast TV over IP on an HD quality at NFL sunday ticket scale, is going to require massive bandwidth to tolerate all of the idiosyncrasies that is IP trying to broadcast. Hint Multicast only going to help a very small amount. Quite a bit of redundant bandwidth will have to be built in to provide service.

If google wants to build it's own network backbone to provide service or build a satellite network to distribute live streaming content then it can offer that. But until google can control how the backbone/distribution is managed it's going to require massive extra bandwidth to account for providers dropping or even just delaying network traffic long enough to cause issues.

And that doesn't even begin to address what the last mile network providers are going to say once their users are consuming terabytes of streaming bandwidth per month. Just ask yourself this, how many people flip between games when watching sunday ticket? Want to flip between two games and get 'instant' response(i.e. no buffering) that may require nearly 2X the bandwidth of watching one channel depending upon how often you switch. To give people the service that they already expect with Sunday Ticket is going to cause people's bandwidth use to sky rocket.

High quality, large scale live content is simply a very different problem than on-demand services. The optimizations that make one work won't apply for the other. Building Youtube has very little in common with building a broadcast network.

The reason we don't have cableTV delivered via IPTV isn't because the rights owners won't license the content. They'll license the channels to anyone who'd offer a cable style service. There's no geographic protectionism, they wouldn't care if you're competing with Comcast. The reason why they don't do it is because if you don't own the network you're going to give shitty quality service and people won't pay for that.

OnDemand is a very different and much more tolerant problem which is why it is the focus of "Over The Top" services right now.

Bugeater 08-21-2013 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefroyalfan (Post 9905259)
:shake:

How the hell did you get up to 136 posts without me noticing you before? You hiding in the Royals threads or something?


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