And neither iis Gayle Sayers, but he's in there.

Bullshit. Everything is about Super Bowl wins.

Tim Brown has no business in the HOF if Andre Reed isn't there.

Terrell Davis? LMAO

Tags was garbage. The press hated him.

Mecklenberg is not a HOFer.

His numbers and production are top 5 all time.

ALL TIME...

Derrick Brooks
Marvin Harrison
and Kevin Green are the stand-outs from that list for me.

*edit*...Andre Reed (didn't see him the first time through)

No, the HOF is about recognizing the individual.

My thoughts on deserving guys (in order):

Will Shields - Come on. 12 pro bowls and you've made the guy wait for two years, and you let that slug Jonathan Ogden push ahead of him last year. No-brainer as the #1 pick.

Morten Andersen - Arguably the best kicker in the history of the NFL. The dominant long-range kicker of his era and scored a zillion points.

Joe Jacoby - I wasn't a Redskins fan, but this guy was the best lineman of his era. Absolutely dominant run blocker.

Kevin Greene - Time to let this guy in.

Aeneas Williams - I think he deserves it. I screwed up and didn't vote for him, but I'd add it.

Guys who I think will go in, but not this year: Brooks, Tagliabue (it's a given), and Marvin Harrison (who might be first ballot if he didn't engage in gunplay). Oh, and add Coryell into that group as a late edit. In a weak year, Charles Haley, Walter Jones, and Roger Craig might slip in, with Jones being the best of that group. None of the others should make it.

On the senior ballot, I think it's time to put Guy in. I don't think he was a better punter than Jerrell Wilson, but Guy has the reputation and should break the apartheid on punters in the HoF. Claude Humphrey was very good, but I don't think he's a HoFer.

Different era, multi-purpose player.

Davis was a very good running back for a few years but injuries limited his potential.

That doesn't make him a HOFer, especially when compared to dominating players with longevity (Jones, Shields, Reed).

Not relative to the Hof. If we were assigning say franchise worth in the NFL then Super Bowls wins would matter. We would put a 40 year cap on it though. Oh shit...NM...then you and your team would lose again. :P

I'd put Bettis in before Shields.

Bettis was a true freak. Once in a generation (or more) guy.

I'd also put him in before Brooks and **** Strahan...

Not really.

The voters seem to favor guys with rings over individual achievements, which is why it took five long years for DT and two years and counting for Will Shields.

Davis was the greatest in the league. Its okay...you can admit it. Just like I can say that Shields was a great lineman. But any great RB, like Davis, should be ahead of any lineman.

Wow, fully disagree.

If you put in Bettis, then you have to put in Eddie George.

Is Eddie George a HOFer?

Only because he hung around forever. If we're going to use the longevity against some like TD, then it should be used against someone like Bettis.

this is a damned good point.

Your knowledge of the NFL would fit in a thimble with room to spare