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mikey23545 12-09-2013 02:25 AM

I can only say this, Rainman...Your OP should have been your contest entry.

Redcoats58 12-09-2013 02:30 AM

Well its absolutely entertainment and not sport. If you tried to sue the NFL for rigging a game you wouldn't have a leg to stand on because the NFL is deemed entertainment and can produce whatever outcome they want for any given game. Does that mean the players rig games? No, although I'm sure it's happened but not as likely as the refs fixing games. And you're right, Saints going to the big game after Katrina, fixed, Pats after 911, fixed. There are plenty more I'm sure.

Interesting article, if it has already been posted then I apologize. http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

Phobia 12-09-2013 02:37 AM

Hey, I presume this is a cleverly designed ruse to to make the NFL booger-pickers who spy on message boards select the Chiefs as the next SuperBowl winner due to your reverse psychological warfare! That's pure genious. You're like Hank Fan. Keep matriculating your words out into the interwebs, boys. Ah crap. Now they know we know.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Redcoats58 (Post 10262681)
Well its absolutely entertainment and not sport. If you tried to sue the NFL for rigging a game you wouldn't have a leg to stand on because the NFL is deemed entertainment and can produce whatever outcome they want for any given game. Does that mean the players rig games? No, although I'm sure it's happened but not as likely as the refs fixing games. And you're right, Saints going to the big game after Katrina, fixed, Pats after 911, fixed. There are plenty more I'm sure.

Interesting article, if it has already been posted then I apologize. http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

Where exactly did you pick up that nonsense?

Also, the Saints got the Super Bowl 5 seasons after Katrina.

The Patriots did win the next SB after 9/11, but they also had a damn good team that went on to dominate most of the next 10 years. Anyway, wouldn't it have made more sense to fix the game for a New York team since they were the city attacked?

Rausch 12-09-2013 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262684)
Anyway, wouldn't it have made more sense to fix the game for a New York team since they were the city attacked?

Exactly...

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 02:51 AM

I truly don't understand how someone could truly believe that NFL games are fixed yet still be a fan that follows the sport. If I really thought that the league would not allow KC to beat Denver/Manning or allow KC to make it to the SB, I would have no interest in following it.

cosmo20002 12-09-2013 02:55 AM

And again--where is the Saints/Katrina thing coming from?

August 2005 - Katrina hits
2005 season
2006 season
2007 season
2008 season
2009 season - Saints make the SB, win in Feb 2010

Chiefspants 12-09-2013 03:02 AM

The Patriots "win" today may cause me to reexamine my love for the game. I have never seen the officials to blatantly give a team the victory as the refs did for the Pats today. Sure, there have been questionable calls in the past, (i.e. "the tuck rule", phantom holds, etc). But each I had seen contained acceptable amounts of grey area for me to believe that the destiny of the game was still in the hands of the players.

The referees gave the Patriot players and fans the win today, and unfortunately, I do not imagine these occurrences will cease anytime soon. When I was five years old, I fell in love with the gritty, ugly, and unpredictability of the game. The meaning of "Any Given Sunday" kept me occupied as a fan for the past fifteen seasons. However, it now feels as though the NFL has subverted its unpredictability for the benefit of its celebrities, marketability and narratives that allow it to create "must-see-TV".

Today the fans of Cleveland were robbed by a league that has turned its back on "Any Given Sunday" for the sake of the bottom line (though I imagine that Browns fans are already quite accustomed to this feeling).

Redcoats58 12-09-2013 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262686)
I truly don't understand how someone could truly believe that NFL games are fixed yet still be a fan that follows the sport. If I really thought that the league would not allow KC to beat Denver/Manning or allow KC to make it to the SB, I would have no interest in following it.

I didn't say I believed every game was rigged but I do believe there are rigged games that are swung by the officials. There is too much money involved for it not to happen. I follow the Chiefs because they have been my team since I was a kid but if there was 100% proof tomorrow that the league has been fixing games I would stop watching.

threebag 12-09-2013 06:46 AM

Why is it that as a CHIEFS fan I always feel like I am holding Aces and Eights?

ChiefRocka 12-09-2013 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 10262690)
The Patriots "win" today may cause me to reexamine my love for the game. I have never seen the officials to blatantly give a team the victory as the refs did for the Pats today. Sure, there have been questionable calls in the past, (i.e. "the tuck rule", phantom holds, etc). But each I had seen contained acceptable amounts of grey area for me to believe that the destiny of the game was still in the hands of the players.

The referees gave the Patriot players and fans the win today, and unfortunately, I do not imagine these occurrences will cease anytime soon. When I was five years old, I fell in love with the gritty, ugly, and unpredictability of the game. The meaning of "Any Given Sunday" kept me occupied as a fan for the past fifteen seasons. However, it now feels as though the NFL has subverted its unpredictability for the benefit of its celebrities, marketability and narratives that allow it to create "must-see-TV".

Today the fans of Cleveland were robbed by a league that has turned its back on "Any Given Sunday" for the sake of the bottom line (though I imagine that Browns fans are already quite accustomed to this feeling).


That was a single bad PI call at the end of the game. Has happened before.

-King- 12-09-2013 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262676)
Wait a sec---Katrina hit right before the 2005 season. The Saints won the Superbowl following the 2009 season. That's five seasons later.

For some reason, people always bring this up without really researching the year the Saints won.
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loochy 12-09-2013 06:58 AM

Rain man,

please send this essay to your local newspaper as well as the KC Star.

Bob Dole 12-09-2013 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10262688)
And again--where is the Saints/Katrina thing coming from?

August 2005 - Katrina hits
2005 season
2006 season
2007 season
2008 season
2009 season - Saints make the SB, win in Feb 2010

So you slept through all 492 versions of "New Orleans 5 Years Later"?

-King- 12-09-2013 07:04 AM

The ironic thing about this whole thing is that the league is way more competitive now that it ever was in the eras Rain Man is nostalgic about.
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