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Discuss Thrower 01-20-2014 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 10383114)
I'd hate that. Why not move it back to a distance where it's not such a gimmie. Spot it on the 20 and let them kick a 37 yarder. Depending on conditions it might cause coaches to go for 2 points more often.

But there again it removes a fake FG formation from a coach's playbook..

Start Croyle 01-20-2014 04:15 PM

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"There's one proposal in particular that I've heard about. It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."
This is dumb. The outcomes are exactly the same as they are now, except that there is no chance at all to miss the extra point. That means less drama in the game than there is now. Wasn't the reason for changing the rules to increase the excitement?

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:15 PM

I like the idea of eliminating the point after. They just about never miss and it's boring. The scoring needs to be worked out so that there is a decent risk/reward involved. I guess I wouldn't mind giving the scoring team the option of taking the 7 or going for 8 after a score.

GoChargers 01-20-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Start Croyle (Post 10383120)
Wasn't the reason for changing the rules to increase the excitement?

No, the reason for this is the same reason for all of Goodell's other rule changes - to increase scoring with zero regard to its effects on the product as a whole.

-King- 01-20-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10383101)
It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.

Why would it force teams to go for two? You make no sense.

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10383105)
Also I feel like it might improve the game flow.

Say a team scores a TD that looks iffy and it goes to automatic review. TV timeout, but in the 30-45 seconds the play's upheld and scoring team opts to take the point and kickoff. When action resumes from a TV view's standpoint there's about to be a kickoff whereas currently they might break back in for the score and then take commercial after the XP or 2-point conversion.

Yeah, I agree with that.

GordonGekko 01-20-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by greatgooglymoogly (Post 10383112)
The NFL could do what rugby does and force the kicker to attempt the XP from where on the field the TD was scored. That would make it more difficult.

Example: Charles hits the outside, and just sneaks inside the pylon for the TD. Succop then has to kick from that sideline.

This actually sounds excellent, but make a maximum distance so that the 35 yard line or something like that is the maximum distance for a kick. But this also punishes teams for scoring long touchdowns so I don't know. Sounds exciting though.

Another option would be to bring in a random fan for the extra point. That would be cool but would never happen. Funny to think though a big 250 lb. woman coming in for the PAT. Haha

KChiefer 01-20-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10383101)
It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.

Uh, no. A team would have the option of taking a free point, or going for two. It wouldn't force anything.

cosmo20002 01-20-2014 04:18 PM

The extra point is a worthless play. If they can do it successfully 99.9% of the time, it might not be worth doing.

This is a little confusing: "It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

So a TD is worth 7. Then you can go for an extra point via run or pass, but if you fail, you lose a point? That seems too weird.

Just Passin' By 01-20-2014 04:19 PM

This proposal would bring into question any FG attempts from that distance. Why would they not get that same status as being automatic?

Donger 01-20-2014 04:19 PM

Maybe they could toss some random animals onto the field to spice things up? Perhaps some of those little monkeys infected with hemorrhagic fever.

cosmo20002 01-20-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10383101)
It's pretty easy to hate. All Goodell cares about is scoring, and this will force teams to go for two (as in, MOAR POINTZZZZ). He's watering down the league one rule change at a time.

Not that I care about Goodell, but he's not in charge. He doesn't change shit unless the owners want him to change it.

greatgooglymoogly 01-20-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10383126)
This actually sounds excellent, but make a maximum distance so that the 35 yard line or something like that is the maximum distance for a kick. But this also punishes teams for scoring long touchdowns so I don't know. Sounds exciting though.

In rugby, I believe they have a set distance for those kicks, but I can't find it off-hand. Anyway, my intention was for this kick to be attempted along a horizontal line that stretches from sideline to sideline.

philfree 01-20-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10383116)
But there again it removes a fake FG formation from a coach's playbook..

Fake EP.

listopencil 01-20-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10383128)
The extra point is a worthless play. If they can do it successfully 99.9% of the time, it might not be worth doing.

This is a little confusing: "It's automatic that you get seven points when you score a touchdown, but you could potentially go for an eighth point, either by running or passing the ball, so if you fail, you go back to six."

So a TD is worth 7. Then you can go for an extra point via run or pass, but if you fail, you lose a point? That seems too weird.

Yeah, the sentence structure is weird in that quoted bit. What they mean is that when you score a TD you get 6 points. After that you can accept a free 1 point (for 7) and go kick off, or decide to run a 2 point play under current rules (for 8). If your play fails, you are left with the points you scored for a TD (6) and you go kick off.


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