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TambaBerry 02-27-2014 10:18 PM

I wouldn't take any other player at berrys position the guy is an amazing player.

Jakemall 02-27-2014 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dingleberry (Post 10458149)
I wouldn't take any other player at berrys position the guy is an amazing player.

He's a great player...the question is: Should he be moved back to FS and get a SS or leave him there and find a real FS.

I think with Berry it is kinda dealer's choice.

Dunerdr 02-28-2014 07:32 AM

I think he was rusty at it against the colts but I wouldn't be opposed to more of it let him get some time in get a natural feel for it again. But then again if he can take a good tight end out what's that worth to you?

htismaqe 02-28-2014 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 10458399)
I think he was rusty at it against the colts but I wouldn't be opposed to more of it let him get some time in get a natural feel for it again. But then again if he can take a good tight end out what's that worth to you?

He can't take a good TE out. The rules don't allow it. Good TEs can't be covered man-to-man. You've got to scheme them into committing penalties, ala Tony G.

Chiefs=Champions 02-28-2014 08:08 AM

Berry is far more valuable to this defense in the role he plays. He fills a variety of roles that would normally take several players to fill. Its great for a defense scheme wise, as it allows them to hide what they are doing a lot better. If we had another player who could do it, im sure he would switch up between deep safety and in the box more often, but we just dont have that player atm.

Right now who would fill his role if he was to move? Abdullah is a possibility, but we simply don't have the linebackers or any one else that could cover his various roles. I think they target a rangey FS before they target someone to fill Berry's role, he simply too good at it.

I know people love the flashy FS types like Earl Thomas, but Chancellor is just as valuable to that defense as Thomas. We have our Chancellor, now we just need to find a step up from Lewis, which would be a lower end starting caliber safety...

Dunerdr 02-28-2014 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10458411)
He can't take a good TE out. The rules don't allow it. Good TEs can't be covered man-to-man. You've got to scheme them into committing penalties, ala Tony G.

Yeah but he can still hit them in the knee with a bat right?

OldSchool 02-28-2014 02:15 PM

If we drafted Telvin Smith, Berry could be moved back to FS.

KCrockaholic 03-02-2014 05:55 PM

Haha, Eric Berry is not too slow to play FS. I think it's more to do with the fact that coaches see his physical style, and know he can play in the box, so they use him there. What, was Kendrick Lewis supposed to play in the box? Not a chance. Demps? No way. Abdullah? He's not that kind of guy, IMO. He's an off the ball safety. We just haven't had somebody who could truly play SS other than Berry.

xztop123 03-03-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 10458436)
Berry is far more valuable to this defense in the role he plays. He fills a variety of roles that would normally take several players to fill. Its great for a defense scheme wise, as it allows them to hide what they are doing a lot better. If we had another player who could do it, im sure he would switch up between deep safety and in the box more often, but we just dont have that player atm.

Right now who would fill his role if he was to move? Abdullah is a possibility, but we simply don't have the linebackers or any one else that could cover his various roles. I think they target a rangey FS before they target someone to fill Berry's role, he simply too good at it.

I know people love the flashy FS types like Earl Thomas, but Chancellor is just as valuable to that defense as Thomas. We have our Chancellor, now we just need to find a step up from Lewis, which would be a lower end starting caliber safety...

Thomas has a much harder job than Kam does. He is asked to cover an insane amount of ground on every play. The point that's being made here is that with the money and the high draft pick we spent on Berry, we should be getting our money's worth (at the absolute hardest position, as the Seahawks are doing with their high dollar player)

Kendrick Lewis is being asked to complete a harder task than Berry is. It doesn't make sense to ask a lesser player to do a harder task than a better player

Direckshun 03-04-2014 09:17 AM

Isn't it possible we're overrating Thomas because he never has to provide support to the side of the field that Sherman's shutting down?

xztop123 03-04-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10465818)
Isn't it possible we're overrating Thomas because he never has to provide support to the side of the field that Sherman's shutting down?

No, they are playing cover 3... there is def communication going on which helps but they are still funneling the play to Thomas (who has to cover the most amount of space on that entire D)

Mugsy 03-07-2014 07:49 AM

I don't think they have any plans of moving Berry for a number of reasons. It's like Reid said recently (combine interview?), he was the consensus All Pro Strong Safety. Why would you move a consensus all pro? Also, he closes on the running back faster than any safety in the game. You can't find that kind of talent anywhere. It's his best attribute.


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