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Sfeihc 03-06-2014 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10469887)
For me it has to be hands. Everything else is great but if you can't catch you can't "receive."

Welp, you gotta take the good with the bad. :) kccrow is here and now so is mugsy who's next mongo?

kccrow 03-06-2014 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 10470767)
Welp, you gotta take the good with the bad. :) kccrow is here and now so is mugsy who's next mongo?

I might offset both of them, so call it a wash :P

kccrow 03-06-2014 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 10469227)
This is a good start... but I want to scan the top 40 WR's to look for more patterns. It would be cool to have a full profile of your target WR. Are there any key metrics, aside from height, that indicate a high likelihood of success?

Are there certain metrics, when paired with other metrics that indicate a high likelihood of success? (X Vert + Y Height +Z Hand size = Top 10 WR?)

Hand Length?
Wingspan?
Vertical?
Wonderlic Score?
Drop % in College?

I did not notice a correlation between hand size and success, except for that 9" seems to be the minimum. I'll look into these over the weekend when I get some time though, good suggestions.

Jakemall 03-06-2014 05:40 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...metric-allstar

kccrow 03-06-2014 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall (Post 10470886)

No offense to you Jake, but articles like this just make me think of throwing crap at the wall until you find a turd that sticks. Heck, I'm sure I could add a bunch of combine numbers together, divide by 973, and end up with some construed statistic that favors my presentation. In the end, the reality is that you have to compare a player against a time-tested standard, which is exactly what NFL execs actually do. If a player fails to meet the standard in any one area, all is not lost, but failure to hit several of the standards usually means that player will find it difficult to compete. Then you have the tape portion of it. Not only does a player have to meet the predefined standards, but they also have to perform, according to the requirements of the position, on the football field. Donte Moncrief is a really nice player, but there is one thing that really pops at me with him and that is how he catches the football. Moncrief is a body catcher. Buyer beware, but the risk could end in a huge reward.

Sorter 03-06-2014 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mugsy (Post 10469887)
For me it has to be hands. Everything else is great but if you can't catch you can't "receive."

Blackbob is officially (disclaimer: OldSchool might be Blackbob as well) back! Mugsy was his handle on the Coalition. LMAO










Bummer he'll be banned in about 15 minutes.

Sfeihc 03-06-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 10470983)
Blackbob is officially (disclaimer: OldSchool might be Blackbob as well) back! Mugsy was his handle on the Coalition. LMAO

crow would make a heck of an addition to the CP mock.










Bummer he'll be banned in about 15 minutes.


crow would make a heck of an addition to the CP mock.

Hog's Gone Fishin 03-06-2014 08:23 PM

The most important statistic for a WR is having Peyton Manning throwing you the ****ing ball !

saphojunkie 03-06-2014 08:23 PM

I think it's going to be Jordan Matthews.

OldSchool 03-06-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10471128)
I think it's going to be Jordan Matthews.

That's where I can see Dorsey making an "upside" pick due to Matthews' superior measurables and work ethic. Beckham's value is also in his ability to return kicks though, so he could just as easily be the pick. Either guy will be fine starting from the slot in their rookie year and eventually transitioning out to the perimeter.

kccrow 03-06-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 10471016)
crow would make a heck of an addition to the CP mock.

if ya'll need a warm body to fill a spot, let me know. :)

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 03-06-2014 10:45 PM

Calvin and Evans. Interesting.

Edit: wrong thread. McShay mock

htismaqe 03-07-2014 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10471173)
That's where I can see Dorsey making an "upside" pick due to Matthews' superior measurables and work ethic. Beckham's value is also in his ability to return kicks though, so he could just as easily be the pick. Either guy will be fine starting from the slot in their rookie year and eventually transitioning out to the perimeter.

I think Beckham is probably the #3 WR on a lot of boards now. Gone before #23.

Mugsy 03-07-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10470618)
Jace Amaro. Problem solved.

I can't see us taking a TE in the first round. We have three TEs that are in the mold of what Reid had in Philadelphia. I think it's more about Reid's offense than it is about finding Alex Smith another Vernon Davis. Plus, the wide receivers that will be there at #23 have a lot more talent.

OldSchool 03-07-2014 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10471584)
I think Beckham is probably the #3 WR on a lot of boards now. Gone before #23.

Yeah, doesn't have the red flags that Lee had last season and he is bigger than Cooks. People also see him as a better play maker than Cooks. My rankings would go:

1. Watkins
2. Evans
3. Beckham
4. Lee
t-5. Matthews
t-5. Cooks


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