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htismaqe 03-12-2014 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483197)
They also got worse. Decker leaving is a big deal as well as their starting guard.
They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483197)
They don't have a legit RB. Who are their other DB's? Who are their LB's?
They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483197)
Von Miller and Chris Harris tore their ACL's less than 2 months ago. They will be lucky to be at full speed by the end of the season. Those are huge losses. They really didn't get better in the grand scheme of things IMO.
Hope in one hand, shit in the other...

Hoover 03-12-2014 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483195)
If ALL contracts are "out of control" then by definition, you're measuring against an already obsolete baseline. The cap is going up. A LOT. Contracts are going to go up. It's basic cause and effect.



We spent the first overall pick on a right tackle. We traded away two 2nd round picks for a 30-year old QB. We gave contracts to aging players like Dwayne Bowe. Would I PREFER to build through the draft? Sure. But first and foremost, I'd like to see some CONSISTENCY in their approach.



So you're going to draft that starting guard then? So much for building through the draft. The picking are already getting slim in free agency when you compare what is available to what our needs are.



Being judicious with money is smart. Doing nothing and letting whole groups of players walk is not.
I never said that we shouldn't sign any players in free agency. So no, I don't think it would be wise to get our starting guard in the draft, unless our options on the market are total crap. Again, be smart in free agency. I think its important for them to ink a FS in free agency. I'd be happy with Clemons. I think they can find a solid guard to plug into the line. My point is we don't have tons glaring needs, so don't freak out and go wild that its Super Bowl or bust in 2014.

Oh, and isn't it about time for you to get over Alex Smith. For the love of God, I just happy we have a legit QB. I worry about those of you continue to bitch about the two draft picks we gave up for him. I better stop there, the analogy I want to use could get me in trouble. What's done is done.

Hoover 03-12-2014 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483209)
They didn't miss Ryan Clady, they won't miss Beadles.



They had shit RBs and DBs last year and made it to the Super Bowl.



Hope in one hand, shit in the other...
I didn't say any of those things FYI :)

RunKC 03-12-2014 07:56 AM
I can't wait until next offseason when the Broncos choke again and Demaryius Thomas and Von Miller want top 5 money, Welker is a also a free agent.

They're going to be so ****ed. It's either clean house to be able to afford those two or let them go. Either way they're losing very important players next year.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 10483210)
Oh, and isn't it about time for you to get over Alex Smith. For the love of God, I just happy we have a legit QB. I worry about those of you continue to bitch about the two draft picks we gave up for him. I better stop there, the analogy I want to use could get me in trouble. What's done is done.
So I guess you've missed the 100 or so posts where I've praised Alex Smith and used words like "nails", "clutch", etc.?

The point is, if you're going to trade picks for players, you have to REINFORCE that approach because you're absolutely playing for NOW.

The two draft picks we gave up for him represent a problem if this regime isn't CONSISTENT in its approach. You can't "build through the draft" if you don't have any ****ing draft picks.

Gonzo 03-12-2014 07:59 AM
I'm pretty sure Reid and Dorsey know what they're doing. If you stop and think about it, how many really big names and multi-million dollar players did the Eagles have during Reid's tenure?
The same could be asked about the Packers.
They both believe in piecing the team together via the draft and that's what they're doing.
It's not like Denver's "win right now, we'll suck when the cap hits" mentality. They have a year, maybe two before Manning retires. They're on the ****ing clock, the chiefs aren't. They're trying to build a dynasty while Denver will be 3-13 in a few years.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483213)
I can't wait until next offseason when the Broncos choke again and Demaryius Thomas and Von Miller want top 5 money, Welker is a also a free agent.

They're going to be so ****ed. It's either clean house to be able to afford those two or let them go. Either way they're losing very important players next year.
ROFL

Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.

RunKC 03-12-2014 08:01 AM
Dorsey wasn't bluffing when he got here. He's building this through the draft.
It's obvious that he thinks very highly of his first draft to step up and take over.

RunKC 03-12-2014 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483218)
ROFL

Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
What happened when they made the SB again? Remind me.

This is a money issue. They are using ALL of their money NOW. Do you disagree that Thomas and Von won't want top 5 money next offseason when their contracts are up? Do you know how the cap works?

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10483215)
I'm pretty sure Reid and Dorsey know what they're doing. If you stop and think about it, how many really big names and multi-million dollar players did the Eagles have during Reid's tenure?
Seriously? Seriously?

The Eagles signed Jevon Kearse and Terrell Owens in the SAME OFFSEASON.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10483215)
The same could be asked about the Packers.
At one point, Brett Favre was the highest-paid QB in the league. They traded for him.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10483215)
They both believe in piecing the team together via the draft and that's what they're doing.
Well, except for trading multiple draft picks for a 30-year old QB.

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 10483215)
They're trying to build a dynasty while Denver will be 3-13 in a few years.
ROFL ROFL ROFL

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 10483223)
What happened when they made the SB again? Remind me.

This is a money issue. They are using ALL of their money NOW. Do you disagree that Thomas and Von won't want top 5 money next offseason when their contracts are up? Do you know how the cap works?
Hilarious.

This team hasn't won a SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME since Bill Clinton's first term and they want to gloat about the Broncos losing in the SUPER BOWL?

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Marcellus 03-12-2014 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483218)
ROFL

Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
Yea Denver has won it all.

kcchiefsus 03-12-2014 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483218)
ROFL

Everybody said they were ****ed when they signed Manning. He wouldn't last 6 games they said. They made the playoffs.

Everybody said they were ****ed this past offseason. Defense sucks. They made the Super Bowl.
Well to be fair that's only because of Manning himself. Having Manning can overcome a lot of other deficiencies. Once Manning is gone and some loser like Brock Osweiler is the QB and they're still in cap hell then things aren't going to be so pretty around there.

htismaqe 03-12-2014 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10483229)
Yea Denver has won it all.
Did I say that?

ROFL

RunKC 03-12-2014 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10483226)
Hilarious.

This team hasn't won a SINGLE PLAYOFF GAME since Bill Clinton's first term and they want to gloat about the Broncos losing in the SUPER BOWL?

ROFL ROFL ROFL
You seem to be the one sucking their dicks. They have major problems and got lucky that the Pats were completely depleted w injuries.

They are nowhere near as good as Seattle even with their additions.


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