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Sandy Vagina 04-25-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10583721)
Thats also why I'd take Beckham over just about any WR in this draft (other than Watkins with his skillset) in an Andy Reid offense.

People were gaga over potentially bringing in Desean. Beckham could be that type of player.

Agreed. Compared to most other WRs, OBJ3 seems to be a very safe but effective option.

ct 04-25-2014 09:45 AM

Underdrafted - WR Brandon Cooks, being rated as 4th WR, sometimes lower, when all the guy does is get open, catch the ball, and make plays. My #1 target @23 for KC!

Overdrafted - QB Johnny Manziel, somebody in the top10 won't be able to pass him up I think, and they will regret it when they realize they can't fix this dynamo package of undisciplined Fran Tarkenton part deux.

Saccopoo 04-25-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 10584646)
Underdrafted - WR Brandon Cooks, being rated as 4th WR, sometimes lower, when all the guy does is get open, catch the ball, and make plays. My #1 target @23 for KC!

Overdrafted - QB Johnny Manziel, somebody in the top10 won't be able to pass him up I think, and they will regret it when they realize they can't fix this dynamo package of undisciplined Fran Tarkenton part deux.

I'm not sure a mid-first round pick in this exceptionally deep draft is what I'd call "underdrafted."; e.g., Brandin Cooks.

Shockaholic 04-25-2014 01:56 PM

Overdrafted: S Jimmie Ward, DT Aaron Donald, QB Derek Carr

Underdrafted: WR Donte Moncrief, CB Jason Verrett, LB Ryan Shazier

Shockaholic 04-25-2014 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10584741)
I'm not sure a mid-first round pick in this exceptionally deep draft is what I'd call "underdrafted."; e.g., Brandin Cooks.

Agreed, way too deep of a draft to really say someone is over or under drafted. The only guys that could fit into that category is QBs like Carr, Bridgewater and Mettenberger.

RunKC 04-25-2014 07:56 PM

Underrated: Demarcus Lawrence OLB Boise St-This kid is awesome. He's a legit first rd talent that has all the tools to be a badass pass rusher. I think he's super talented and is very underrated.

Overrated: Dee Ford-The guy is a one trick pony. He can't play the run if his life depended on it. NFL OT's will own him once they get their hands on him. He's not in the same world as Clowney and he's an idiot for criticizing him.

O.city 04-25-2014 09:31 PM

Aaron Donald is probably going top 20 and I still think he's being underrated.

OldSchool 04-25-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10586261)
Aaron Donald is probably going top 20 and I still think he's being underrated.

A couple of inches taller, 5-10 pounds heavier and you would be looking at the potential #1 pick in this draft.

O.city 04-25-2014 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10586272)
A couple of inches taller, 5-10 pounds heavier and you would be looking at the potential #1 pick in this draft.

He was the topic starter in my head for this thread.

People are going to pass on him because of that, and he's going to wreck shit.

O.city 04-25-2014 09:39 PM

If Donald is there at 23 (he won't be) I'd sprint to the podium and have my defensive line set for the next decade if I were the Chiefs GM.

OldSchool 04-25-2014 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10586281)
If Donald is there at 23 (he won't be) I'd sprint to the podium and have my defensive line set for the next decade if I were the Chiefs GM.

Same here, I wouldn't even bother looking at who else was on the table. Pairing Donald up with Poe in the middle on passing downs with Hali and Houston on the outside would wreck Peyton Manning's shit.

Saccopoo 04-25-2014 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10586274)
He was the topic starter in my head for this thread.

People are going to pass on him because of that, and he's going to wreck shit.

What's he going to wreck?

He's short with a maxed out frame at 285 lbs. Unless he's the second coming of John Randall, he's going to get destroyed by NFL level linemen.

In all honesty, I was considering him as my "overdrafted" dude.

OldSchool 04-25-2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10586471)
What's he going to wreck?

He's short with a maxed out frame at 285 lbs. Unless he's the second coming of John Randall, he's going to get destroyed by NFL level linemen.

In all honesty, I was considering him as my "overdrafted" dude.

How's that Geno Atkins guy doing in the league?

Saccopoo 04-26-2014 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10586525)
How's that Geno Atkins guy doing in the league?

Blown knee.

I understand that everyone thinks that Donald will be Atkins, and he was even more productive at the college level. And there was a reason why Atkins was picked in the fourth round. Why John Randle was an UDFA. However, because of guys like that, Donald's remarkable 2013 season and his freak level combine, somebody is going to spend a first rounder on him.

The thing is, just like under 6' QB's, in this day and age, 6'1", 285 lbs. defensive tackles have the odds stacked against them no matter how good they've been at the collegiate level.

And it won't be one on one senior bowl practices. He'll be getting doubled by centers and guards who outweigh him by fifty pounds a piece.

He's obviously talented and productive and athletic. He's got a chance, but it's not a given.

RunKC 04-26-2014 12:46 AM

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Cyril Richardson is 40 lbs heavier. I think he could done fine against NFL OL, especially in a 4-3. Lining up against G's that is, not OT's. That would just waste his talent.


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