Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10606806)

Sutton caught the most shit after the playoff game. His refusal to play deep coverage was infuriating, especially watching TY Hilton torch us play after play. Other than that, milk is spot on here, and this is coming from a guy that wanted Sutton's head on a spike initially.

That gif showing Luck hitting Hilton for the dagger TD against us with Kendrick Lewis and Dunta Robinson in "hot" pursuit 10 yards behind is all you need to see to explain why our D ssucked so bad in the second half of the season last year.

Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10606824)

That was the big problem, he simply didn't have the depth to effectively run the type of defense that he wanted to run. He stuck two guys on Hilton and still got burned. In that situation though, with Flowers going down, I would have shifted Berry over to cover Hilton and let a combination of Abdullah and DJ take limit the effectiveness of Fleener.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10606825)

Just goes to show you how utterly silly it is to talk about trading Eric Berry...

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10606817)

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10606821)

I believe Hilton began torching the D when Flowers went out.

Right?

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10606822)

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10606782)

So, again, I ask, given the limitations of the talent, what exactly did you expect Sutton to do?

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10606808)

I agree. While I have been wanting us to take either a receiver or safety tomorrow, I would feel pretty good if we snatched up Kyle Van Noy. He can be your other ILB, even if he can play outside. The guy really is that talented.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10606816)

Right, but I'm talking about last year.

If Lewis were benched, and Abdullah replaced him as teams like Houston and Buffalo started to figure us out, I'll bet Sutton never would have played the corners off the line, and we could actually press the shit out of Denver's receivers successfully.

I still don't know if the Indy game would have had the same result, but it at least would have deflected so much fan criticism away from Sutton. You wouldn't see such an abysmal product on the field for the second half of the year.

People are on my ass about this, but if we trade down from 23, Kyle Van Noy should absolutely be a consideration, where he can be the primary backup to Hali and the starter at ILB next to DJ when he's not. He would provide interior pressure and coverage skills that Mays, Jordan, and Belcher never had.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10606833)

Don't do that. You've got a vision nobody else has. Were you not right about Knile Davis?

Also, a time will come this season when you will gloat bukkake over everybody for seeing a legend being born before everybody else:

Chas Alecxih

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10606837)

I'm really torn on this.

I keep going back and forth between Jimmy Ward and Kyle Van Noy, but I think I've settled on Ward, and finding that ILB in the 3rd.

Originally Posted by planetdoc (Post 10606835)

Get those liabilities off the field. For example, in the last 2 games (SD, IND) Abdullah had 14 TKL, 2 PD, 2 INT. Why didnt he get more playing time or replace Lewis?

Why was Dunta Robinson on the 53 when it was obvious he was a liability from day 1? Does he, as a defensive coordinator have no say on who makes the roster or is on the gameday? Chiefs could have filled that spot with someone who could have contributed.

As mentioned before, why didnt he rotate the d-line better? They showed ability in wk 17 against SD.

A 3-4 D thrives on the pass rush (and ability) of the linebackers. When Houston/Hali were banged up, why didnt he switch to more 4-3 looks? I know nickel/dime defenses are all the rage, but they dont work when the linebackers/secondary are banged up.

If Sutton's D requires a quick, single high safety, than why didnt he try Berry there in preseason? Berry has world class speed compared to Lewis.

I hope Sutton learns from last yr. One way to start would be to move DeVito to LDE.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10606847)

I really haven't studied linebacker depth much, other than to listen to the talking heads say that LB depth isn't all that great this year. Anyone you've got your eye on?

Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 10606852)

I remember very little of Buffalo, Houston, and Denver exploting deep zones. I remember a lot of short passes to get the ball out quickly to neutralize the pass rush and the defense having no answers, either up front or in coverage.