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ChiTown 09-07-2014 03:18 PM
Our Owner, Coaches and Front Office suck dick. End of story

chiefzilla1501 09-07-2014 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10890271)
Every team loses people.

We picked the wrong people to allow to leave and we replaced them with often injured players and scrubs of a much lower level of talent...
That's exactly my point. I don't get the criticism of the people we let go. Those were good decisions. The problem is the people we've brought in. Let's not overhype guys like Succup who was ridiculously overpaid when we should be criticizing picking up a guy like Santos. And to that end... let's at least give guys like Santos a few games before we know what we have.

Rausch 09-07-2014 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10890297)
Our Owner, Coaches and Front Office suck dick. End of story
By the time Dorsey leaves this team will have less talent that any KC team since the 80's...

Bewbies 09-07-2014 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10890312)
By the time Dorsey leaves this team will have less talent that any KC team since the 80's...
This is a scary thought...

Rausch 09-07-2014 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10890307)
That's exactly my point. I don't get the criticism of the people we let go.
It would have been better to overpay Albert and not draft Fisher.
Period.
We didn't HAVE to lose Flowers. As thin as we are in the secondary we could have used him today.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10890307)
The problem is the people we've brought in. Let's not overhype guys like Succup who was ridiculously overpaid when we should be criticizing picking up a guy like Santos. And to that end... let's at least give guys like Santos a few games before we know what we have.
Succup doesn't even come in to play when your offense can't get in FG range.
Our line can't block. Smith was pressured on every damned pass play.
Our WR's either couldn't get open or dropped the pass after contact.

To make it all worse our HC/OC went full reerun today...

Mav 09-07-2014 03:24 PM
No bowe, no dat, no stephenson.....

To be expect ed

chiefzilla1501 09-07-2014 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 10890337)
It would have been better to overpay Albert and not draft Fisher.
Period.
We didn't HAVE to lose Flowers. As thin as we are in the secondary we could have used him today.
We could have avoided overpaying Albert and instead went with Stephenson or tried to draft a replacement RT/LT swing tackle in the later rounds. We had no choice but to cut Flowers given that we barely made it under the cap and I'd rather that money go to players like Charles, Smith, Berry, and Houston. Again, no problem with the guys we cut. We've got to do a shitload better with the guys we bring in.

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Succup doesn't even come in to play when your offense can't get in FG range.
Our line can't block. Smith was pressured on every damned pass play.
Our WR's either couldn't get open or dropped the pass after contact.

To make it all worse our HC/OC went full reerun today...
I was not a huge fan of the Reid signing. Our line was not as big of an issue as it was Smith holding on to the ball, which may have been due to receivers. And our receivers were ****ing terrible. But let's be fair about something... this line looks a lot better if you slide Allen back to Guard and Stephenson at RT. This receiver core is a hell of a lot better if you add Bowe, let Avery play against the #2 corner, and add DAT as a utility option.

Eleazar 09-07-2014 03:28 PM
Every one of those names are "just a guy"s except Albert and Schwartz. Albert is an average LT and nothing more. Schwartz is just average and is injured already. The problem isn't who they let go, it's doing nothing in response.

Serviceable if unspectacular interior linemen, receivers, defensive backs are not that hard to find, but we don't have any of them.

I understand Reid and Dorsey are pure BPA in the draft, and long term that is the best plan, but it looks bad in the short term when you sign no one, you draft nothing at positions of need, and you go into the season with garbage practice squad type players at several position groups.

ShortRoundChief 09-07-2014 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10890376)
We could have avoided overpaying Albert and instead went with Stephenson or tried to draft a replacement RT/LT swing tackle in the later rounds. We had no choice but to cut Flowers given that we barely made it under the cap and I'd rather that money go to players like Charles, Smith, Berry, and Houston. Again, no problem with the guys we cut. We've got to do a shitload better with the guys we bring in.


I was not a huge fan of the Reid signing. Our line was not as big of an issue as it was Smith holding on to the ball, which may have been due to receivers. And our receivers were ****ing terrible. But let's be fair about something... this line looks a lot better if you slide Allen back to Guard and Stephenson at RT. This receiver core is a hell of a lot better if you add Bowe, let Avery play against the #2 corner, and add DAT as a utility option.

It's not as fun to use common sense.

RunKC 09-07-2014 03:30 PM
It's not about losing those players. It's about Dorsey giving us absolutely NOTHING from 2 of his draft classes.

Every team has to let players go because of the cap. The good ones replace them through the draft. Dorsey can't draft worth a shit.

Red Dawg 09-07-2014 03:31 PM
Its year two of a rebuild and its looking bad. We needed some vets but have zero money.

mcaj22 09-07-2014 03:31 PM
another front office fraud like Pioli

no different really. Just once the Chiefs deserve a smart FO mind

RunKC 09-07-2014 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10890412)
Its year two of a rebuild and its looking bad. We needed some vets but have zero money.
Because we gave an overrated Bowe big money and now Alex who doesn't look good.

Mr. Laz 09-07-2014 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10890257)
There's also a lot of just horrible luck.
ROFL ROFL

we've been arguing for months about how this was coming.

you say, the the guys we lost weren't that good

i say, still better than no replacement at all

no receivers, no problem

no secondary, no problem

no Oline help, no problem


This is not hindsight



yep, just bad luck.

Rasputin 09-07-2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 10890412)
Its year two of a rebuild and its looking bad. We needed some vets but have zero money.

It's not year two of a rebuild. We have a 10 year vet at quarterback that we got the same way Carl Peterson has been getting us quarterbacks for decades. No this is not a rebuild year it never has been a rebuild year.


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