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WhiteWhale 10-22-2014 08:07 AM

Who gives a shit what you call him?

He's the same QB now as he was 3 years ago. Nothing has changed. Alex is going to Alex.

Game manager and franchise QB are nothing more than vague buzz words with subjective definitions. Arguing about it is stupid. If you don't know what kind of QB Alex Smith is by now, you're pretty dense.

WhiteWhale 10-22-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 11039727)
The one short-coming Alex Smith has is the unwillingness to take chances. Solomon Wilcotts pointed out yesterday that he had a 1v1 matchup deep that he could've taken a shot on. He just refuses to do it.

Pfff... on the sideline Kelce had totally beaten 2 guys.

Jenkins sucks, and probably would not have caught it. I don't trust him 1 on 1. The DB probably wins the battle, because AJ is awful. Smith could have floated a ball to Kelce and it's a race to the endzone. Instead he got sacked.

Alex is gonna Alex.

temper11 10-22-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 11039678)
Most of the time, I think the friction between people about Smith comes down to misunderstandings. Most agree that he is a good QB.. but the "sides" see criticism as extreme hate... and any applause as extreme adoration.

There is a large, grey area. Just about everyone is in this.. but somehow, get pushed further to one end or the other by the misunderstandings and overreactions from others.

I think Smith is every bit in that "2nd tier" of all QBs. Anywhere in the 7-15 range, and it fluctuates, as all QB's performances do each week. (except maybe Forehead)

Some feel he has hit his ceiling... that's fair enough.. but I don't agree. Another year in the system... an upgrade at OL here and there... and an upgrade at one WR spot... and I believe Smith can evolve even more.

He is NOT flawless... he is NOT without blame...
He is NOT a shitbag... he is NOT teh suxxorz...

Smith is simply a good, 2nd tier QB that can have a whole lot of success for a team that doesn't completely suck.

Perfectly stated. Exactly this. Well done sandy.

-King- 10-22-2014 08:59 AM

This thread will surely turn out differently than all the other Smith threads.
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Three7s 10-22-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11039824)
This thread will surely turn out differently than all the other Smith threads.
Posted via Mobile Device

Hey, at least it's entertaining at work? :shrug:

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 11039801)
Perfectly stated. Exactly this. Well done sandy.

Not really

this is like arguing the importance of winger in musical history and whether or not they were a second tier or a shit tier band or whether they were 12th or 18th best that week

they had their rockin moments but if you had a choice, you wouldnt sport a winger shirt or blast winger in your camaro

you would put on a zeppelin shirt or blast metallica out of the t-tops as you thunder down the road any day

theyre just not important, nor will they ever be

Eleazar 10-22-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 11039719)
Love the comparison to Cutler. Many Alex-haters think arm strength is the most important thing to a good QB. Alex proves that it's the 6 inches between the ears that is even more important.

Finding arm strength in the draft is easy. Finding QBs is not.

Ming the Merciless 10-22-2014 09:11 AM

"hes not a game manager"

"see he completed 62% of his passes and has way more TD's than INTS"

see

SEE?

dj56dt58 10-22-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 11039659)
I see where it says to stop calling him a game manager. I couldn't find the statistics to back that claim up, especially when it takes him 21 games to put up Andy Dalton numbers.

The Andy dalton that had like 21 yards at halftime and got shut out without AJ green against the colts defense that Alex put 370+ yards and 4 tds on?

BlackHelicopters 10-22-2014 09:27 AM

:facepalm:

JENKINSWINS 10-22-2014 09:37 AM

Alex Smith is a Franchise QB!

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media-center...e-c8d3e116ecdd

MahiMike 10-22-2014 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 11039763)
Pfff... on the sideline Kelce had totally beaten 2 guys.

Jenkins sucks, and probably would not have caught it. I don't trust him 1 on 1. The DB probably wins the battle, because AJ is awful. Smith could have floated a ball to Kelce and it's a race to the endzone. Instead he got sacked.

Alex is gonna Alex.

Correct answer. I think as Kelce and Alex get to know each other more, this pass will be attempted. Alex knows his WR's suck.

ThaVirus 10-22-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58 (Post 11039859)
The Andy dalton that had like 21 yards at halftime and got shut out without AJ green against the colts defense that Alex put 370+ yards and 4 tds on?


That's not the same defense we played in the playoff game. If that unit keeps playing the way it is, that team will be a legit Super Bowl contender.

Dalton's been putting up 4,000 yard 30 TD seasons since he came in the league. He's not getting all that production out of one guy.

dj56dt58 10-22-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11039884)
That's not the same defense we played in the playoff game. If that unit keeps playing the way it is, that team will be a legit Super Bowl contender.

Dalton's been putting up 4,000 yard 30 TD seasons since he came in the league. He's not getting all that production out of one guy.

they have a good defense, you make it sound like they are the 2000 Ravens. Chiefs would put up 27+ on them. Dalton put up absolutely nothing. They are superbowl contenders because of Andrew luck, not their D

Sandy Vagina 10-22-2014 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11039884)
That's not the same defense we played in the playoff game. If that unit keeps playing the way it is, that team will be a legit Super Bowl contender.

Dalton's been putting up 4,000 yard 30 TD seasons since he came in the league. He's not getting all that production out of one guy.

Yeah, not the same defense.

They lost their stud pass rusher that amassed 19.5 sacks last year.

So to suggest that their middling defense is somehow better now? Get real.

I don't condemn Dalton for one game... but making excuses like this for him is ironic and weak at best. Other than Corey Redding and CB Davis, that Colts defense has nothing for offenses to fear.

Dalton doesn't just get production out of Green. You are of course right about that. Thing is.. just having a talent like Green on the field opens up everyone else... so directly or indirectly... Green is a huge presence for Cincy.


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