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chiefzilla1501 10-23-2014 06:50 AM

Are they sour on Cooper? Wonder if maybe they will match Fleming up against speed years and Cooper against bigger receivers.

Prison Bitch 10-23-2014 06:50 AM

But has Dorsey been fired yet Direck?

Mav 10-23-2014 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11043075)
Are they sour on Cooper? Wonder if maybe they will match Fleming up against speed years and Cooper against bigger receivers.

His confidence is probably shot. Probably giving him some time to reset I would guess.

58-4ever 10-23-2014 07:33 AM

I remember Fleming from OU... Let's just say he was better than William Bartee.

O.city 10-23-2014 07:39 AM

Why is everyone so ready to release Sean smith? He's been much better than I thought he would be and has been a damn good corner for us. He's young and in his prime.

Wallcrawler 10-23-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 11043137)
I remember Fleming from OU... Let's just say he was better than William Bartee.

Bartee was a victim of the idiocy of the Kansas City Chiefs.

William Bartee was a Safety in college. The great and wise people of the Kansas City Chiefs front office thought it would be a fantastic idea to draft a Safety, which they did not need, and move him over to cornerback, arguably the most challenging position on defense.

The kid wasn't cut out to play corner, and the front office and defensive coaches and Grampa Dick were just to ****ing stupid to realize it. He NEVER looked for the football. He had NO awareness, no feel for the position whatsoever.

As far as Fleming goes, I don't see what everyone is so jazzed about. He got 4/4 completed against him, and 2 penalties. The one PI was complete and total horseshit, but it counted nonetheless.

Cooper has struggled, but got completely ****ed by the non-call in the 49er game on the shot to the face he took from Stevie Johnson downfield so that scrub could get separation for the TD. Illegal Contact, Hands to the Face, multiple calls could have been made on that play against Johnson but the officials elected to ignore that for some reason.

Cooper is likely having some confidence issues that they are trying to get him through. He can play, we've seen him do it.

I hope this Fleming kid works out, but he's no ****ing knight in shining armor here to save our secondary and kick Sean Smith to the curb.

That's ****ing hilarious.

Lets see the kid get thrown at without a completion, or a penalty first.

Baby steps.

Direckshun 10-23-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11043146)
Why is everyone so ready to release Sean smith? He's been much better than I thought he would be and has been a damn good corner for us. He's young and in his prime.

$$$

He's slated for $9m next year.

O.city 10-23-2014 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11043169)
$$$

He's slated for $9m next year.

But if he's playing to that level, oh well

Direckshun 10-23-2014 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11043170)
But if he's playing to that level, oh well

You'd argue he's playing to that level now?

MTG#10 10-23-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru (Post 11043073)
And what if he doesn't? What are you going to do about it. :D

I'll pout relentlessly

EyePod 10-23-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 11043062)
Im wearing my Berry jersey to the game Sunday, he better ****ing play.

I've been wearing my Berry jersey all season on Sundays. It's my only jersey though so it's that or some older sweatshirts.

O.city 10-23-2014 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 11043176)
You'd argue he's playing to that level now?

Iirc, he's one of the top ranked corners this year. He may bot be playing to 9 mil, but if he's not restructure it

RunKC 10-23-2014 08:31 AM

They aren't giving up on Cooper. They realize he's struggled and they can't have him out there right now. Teams have had enough tape on him to exploit his weaknesses. He's definitely hit a sophomore slump.

He needs to do some film study and work to get back in the game. Way too early to give up on him, especially since he isn't being paid much of anything.

Eleazar 10-23-2014 08:31 AM

Cooper did, does, and will always suck

RunKC 10-23-2014 08:32 AM

CB is a hard position. Patrick Peterson is struggling so much that the Cardinals brass called him out.

Gotta get thought the slump and come back strong.


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