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Rain Man 12-03-2014 08:12 PM

So did somebody complain? And if so, was it the woman tweeter or someone else?

listopencil 12-03-2014 08:12 PM

My answer isn't part of the poll: It's a private media company that is justified in terminating its employees if management decides that this person isn't representing their company appropriately. Either the company will suffer because the public responds negatively to the move, or the company is enriched because the public responds positively to the move. Either he will suffer because he diminished his worth in the marketplace, or he will be enriched because he increased his worth in the marketplace. Que sera, sera.

Bugeater 12-03-2014 08:12 PM

Hard to say, the guy may have some other history of being creepy to women. Wonder if he ever got the pic.

The Franchise 12-03-2014 08:13 PM

I know it doesn't change anything....but go check out the rest of her twitter pictures. Low cut tops....exposing cleavage.

Plus....what was with the "Good! Glad you liked it" when he first commented on the picture?

Baby Lee 12-03-2014 08:18 PM

None of the choices encapsulate my opinion. I'm presuming an at will employment state, which nearly closes the book on the matter. But further, hitting on people in the workplace is henke enough. Doing it so you leave a record is playing with fire. Dismissing her opinion based on her gender isn't something I'd document either.

Put me in 'it's their prerogative' column.

alnorth 12-03-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil (Post 11164897)
My answer isn't part of the poll: It's a private media company that is justified in terminating its employees if management decides that this person isn't representing their company appropriately. Either the company will suffer because the public responds negatively to the move, or the company is enriched because the public responds positively to the move. Either he will suffer because he diminished his worth in the marketplace, or he will be enriched because he increased his worth in the marketplace. Que sera, sera.

I negotiated this dilemma by taking morality out of it and just looked at it from the standpoint of the employer. Would the employer be harmed by retaining this employee? If so, then I think its justified.

Bearcat 12-03-2014 08:22 PM

There's clearly more to it...

https://www.facebook.com/adriandater...89?pnref=story

Quote:

Friends
My long association with the Post came to an end today. That's a really bad thing to have to write, but it's reality.
I said a bunch of stupid things on social media once too often. It was unprofessional and I paid the price.
Social media and I were always going to be a dangerous mix. I'm opinionated and have the occasional real hot temper.
But my problems were deeper than that.
I've had some pretty bad substance abuse problems. Every single time I got myself in trouble with my mouth, substances helped play a role, probably a big one.
I tried to deny it was a big problem but it obviously was and is.
A lifestyle of a lot of late nights away from home in lonely hotel rooms and a stressful lifestyle at times kind of caught up with me. I used too many wrong things as coping mechanisms. I also have dealt with manic depression for years and when the real dark moods come over me I tend to do things to hurt myself more. I don't want these to be used as excuses or to win sympathy. But I'm just adding explanations of what I've had problems with.
I do believe some things said about me recently in accusatory manners is totally false, with people misrepresenting things. Some things that have been written about one incident are completely wrong.
But the bottom line is I caused my own problems and have to own them.
I've been seeking more in-depth help for some of my problems and if I could ask for one thing, it's that you hope for the best that I can.
I know I'm a good person down deep, but greatly flawed.
It was my pleasure writing on the Avalanche for 20 years for a great paper. Nobody can take those memories away.
I love my family and the No. 1 thing I need to do is try and make them proud of me again.
I'm so sorry I let people down. I hope to some day write a happier comeback story for you to read.
Adrian

cdcox 12-03-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 11164918)

Refreshing honesty. I wish him the best.

BucEyedPea 12-03-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11164900)
I know it doesn't change anything....but go check out the rest of her twitter pictures. Low cut tops....exposing cleavage.

Plus....what was with the "Good! Glad you liked it" when he first commented on the picture?

The young ones all seem to dress like that nowadays. Unfortunately, I couldn't believe a top my own daughter had on when she emerged from a classroom when I went up a few days early for the ND game.I have to always tell her to pull it up. It's nothing to them.

alnorth 12-03-2014 08:27 PM

drunk-tweeting is bad, m'kay...

TLO 12-03-2014 08:28 PM

Always trying to keep a brotha down.

Ming the Merciless 12-03-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox (Post 11164887)
In the workplace, or when representing my employer, I find it best to pretend that all humans are asexual beings.

Oh so your workplace ethics match your personal & romantic life?

cdcox 12-03-2014 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11164947)
Oh so your workplace ethics match your personal & romantic life?

There is a time and place for o:-) and a time and place for :evil:.

Just Passin' By 12-03-2014 08:37 PM

Nothing that you posted comes close to a firing offense. That said, if he's in a right to work state without a contract, or he's dumb enough to sign a vague morals clause, that's the end of that.

mikeyis4dcats. 12-03-2014 08:38 PM

so these were direct messages to her, so she must have filed a complaint?

the interaction seemed much more like friends to me than scribe/reader. Not that creeping your friends is right, but a different dynamic for sure.

i suspect they were aware of his other issues and this was a way of getting rid of him.


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