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listopencil 01-19-2015 08:35 PM

Drafted in the fourth round by the Dallas Cowboys, Musgrave was released in camp, but played with the San Francisco 49ers in 1991 and 1993 under head coach George Seifert and offensive coordinator Mike Shanahan. Musgrave went with Shanahan to Denver, where he played in 1995-96, and was released in preseason 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Musgrave

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TLO 01-19-2015 08:37 PM

Who?

RealSNR 01-19-2015 08:38 PM

They couldn't have picked a worse guy for the job if they hired Brian Daboll

RealSNR 01-19-2015 08:40 PM

Also, in before RedNeckRaider calls us all Chiefs homers for saying Bill Musgrave is a bad hire

DaneMcCloud 01-19-2015 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 11281135)
Also, in before RedNeckRaider calls us all Chiefs homers for saying Bill Musgrave is a bad hire

RoyIII knows more about the NFL than RedNeckreerunedRaider

Eureka 01-19-2015 09:15 PM

I'm not to thrilled but he was a QB in the NFL and has been a QB coach for years. He might be able to help improve Carr. At least JDR thinks so. That's right folks the Raiders are trying to develop their own QB. GASP!

One thing I've noticed is that most teams in the playoffs developed their own QB. Musgraves must develop Carr to succeed!

Reerun_KC 01-19-2015 09:17 PM

IF any fan base in the NFL could identify a bad hire its the Kansas City Chiefs fans...

We have seen the worse of the worse in coaching hires.. IF a CP member says it a bad hire, there is a good chance it is... We are experts at dealing with shit coaches.

chiefzilla1501 01-19-2015 10:08 PM

Ok, now that he's out of the running... I'll say that I'm curious to see how Trestman does if he gets a second shot.

There was an interesting article by Cosell that talked about how he was stuck with Cutler, who was a really bad QB for the scheme he wanted to run. Couple that with Trestman being a bad people manager. Get him on a team where he can pick his QB, give him a little time, put him back on X's and O's. Will be interested to see how he does.

KC_Lee 01-19-2015 10:21 PM

He's no Jimmy Raye, but then again who is?

chiefzilla1501 01-19-2015 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11281457)
He's no Jimmy Raye, but then again who is?

Jimmy Raye

wazu 01-19-2015 10:32 PM

Breathing a sigh of relief on this one. Some of the posters on this board had me worried about Trestman going there. Not sure I understand yet why this is a "horrendous" hire, but hope it's true.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 01-19-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eureka (Post 11281227)
I'm not to thrilled but he was a QB in the NFL and has been a QB coach for years. He might be able to help improve Carr. At least JDR thinks so. That's right folks the Raiders are trying to develop their own QB. GASP!

One thing I've noticed is that most teams in the playoffs developed their own QB. Musgraves must develop Carr to succeed!

Musgrave worked well with another YPA/YPC abortion in Christian Ponder. Expect more dinking, dunking, and losing from the garbage QB in Oakland.

wazu 01-19-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 11281481)
Musgrave worked well with another YPA/YPC abortion in Christian Ponder. Expect more dinking, dunking, and losing from the garbage QB in Oakland.

Looks like he was QB coach for Matt Ryan's first 3 years as well, though.

chiefzilla1501 01-19-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 11281494)
Looks like he was QB coach for Matt Ryan's first 3 years as well, though.

From what I remember, the Ryan offense the first few years was ridiculously conservative. A luxury you have when Michael Turner is tearing shit up for you. I don't know that QBs these days need the same kind of kid gloves, but I'm happy if the Raiders want to start treating Carr with kid gloves.

Al Czervik 01-19-2015 10:48 PM

It was between Musgrave or Brian Daboll......
I would of taken Mussy too....


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