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DaneMcCloud 01-28-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297094)
We already have a blocking TE opposite Kelce that provides more, embarassingly, in the pass game with Alex Smith than Green does with Peyton Manning.

Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

jd1020 01-28-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11297103)
Fasano is an oxygen theif who's also currently stealing $4 million per year.

He has to go.

That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

kccrow 01-28-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297107)
That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

He's become an outstanding blocker, but he can catch the ball. He went to Nevada as a WR and was moved to TE. At Nevada he actually caught the ball pretty well, with over 500 yards receiving as a senior. NFL.com didn't even think he'd be a very good blocker in the pros, but thought he'd be an outstanding seam-attacking, vertical threat TE/H-back in their scouting report of him. He's got the goods if he's used that way. The very fact that he has become a devastating run blocker is the bonus. I've been mocking him into my offseason plans as well because the potential is there. A few years ago I thought the same thing of Martellus Bennett and he's turned out to be a rather good feature TE. I wouldn't count the chickens before they hatch.

jd1020 01-28-2015 08:12 PM

Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

kccrow 01-28-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297891)
Bennett had more receiving yards his rookie season than Green has his whole career.

His college days are long behind him. He started 9 games last season for the Broncos and managed to only be targeted 6 times for 74 yards receiving and a 1 yard TD pass from Osweiler. With all of that ability to be a vertical threat at TE you would think he would have been drafted higher than the 7th round and would be able to manage more than 74 yards receiving in 13 games with Peyton Manning. Might as well just line up a 6th lineman and make him eligible to receive.

Thomas and Tamme were the primary receiving threats featured at the position. I'm not arguing how often he was used, I'm arguing that the guy can catch the football.

DaneMcCloud 01-28-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11297107)
That's fine. But signing Green doesn't "improve" the TE position. He's a glorified OT.

Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

jd1020 01-28-2015 09:09 PM

If he was a reliable target wouldn't you think he would manage to have more receiving production than a guy who didn't start a single game?

jd1020 01-28-2015 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11298015)
Jason Dunn was a "glorified" OT for the Chiefs during the Vermeil years and that offense was amazing.

Don't underestimate the benefit of a great blocking tight end.

So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

DaneMcCloud 01-29-2015 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 11298029)
So all we need is one of the greatest TE's of all time to line up opposite of Green and for Alex to go deep?

Good grief

:facepalm:

jd1020 01-29-2015 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11298364)
Good grief

:facepalm:

Ya. I thought the same thing when you tried comparing the success of that offense to this one.

I mean... **** the HoF OL. **** the HoF TE. **** the fact that the offensive system is completely different. They had a blocking TE and it was a good offense!!


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